150-300 PAYOFF

[Robb]

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You open in a tough game against tight blinds in the CO with Ks 3s. Only the BB calls.

Flop comes Qs Qc 5s. Checked to you, you bet and are checkraised. You quickly 3 bet and get are called.

Turn is a 2c. Check Check.

River 3d. BB bets, you call.

Comments?

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I would have called the river too as BB has to think that a decent/big ace has a value bet.

I found your flop and turn play awkward at first but after thinking about it I'm guessing you 3 bet the flop hoping to put no more money in the hand i.e. if BB bet turn or river you would know you were beat and would fold.
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Ok I'm thought about it a little more and I'm still not sure of your plan. I understand you have to defend against the re-steal flop check-raise or else blinds will run over you.....but if you thought the BB had air why not bet the turn? He has a hard time calling with undercards. And if you thought he probably had an ace or a pair....well I don't know I guess I would need more info on BB to understand the flop 3 bet. Care to elaborate?

[mmcd]

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I found your flop and turn play awkward at first but after thinking about it I'm guessing you 3 bet the flop hoping to put no more money in the hand i.e. if BB bet turn or river you would know you were beat and would fold.
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Ok I'm thought about it a little more and I'm still not sure of your plan. I understand you have to defend against the re-steal flop check-raise or else blinds will run over you.....but if you thought the BB had air why not bet the turn? He has a hard time calling with undercards. And if you thought he probably had an ace or a pair....well I don't know I guess I would need more info on BB to understand the flop 3 bet. Care to elaborate?

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Flush draw.

[Robb]

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I found your flop and turn play awkward at first but after thinking about it I'm guessing you 3 bet the flop hoping to put no more money in the hand i.e. if BB bet turn or river you would know you were beat and would fold.
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Ok I'm thought about it a little more and I'm still not sure of your plan. I understand you have to defend against the re-steal flop check-raise or else blinds will run over you.....but if you thought the BB had air why not bet the turn? He has a hard time calling with undercards. And if you thought he probably had an ace or a pair....well I don't know I guess I would need more info on BB to understand the flop 3 bet. Care to elaborate?

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Flush draw.

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Funny how a good player knows when another player has missed something. I didn't see the flush draw - thanks.

[barry.egan]

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but if you thought the BB had air why not bet the turn? He has a hard time calling with undercards. And if you thought he probably had an ace or a pair....well I don't know I guess I would need more info on BB to understand the flop 3 bet. Care to elaborate?

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Not to answer for him, but if I think he has air I'm calling the the flop c/r and popping the turn. If I put him on on an ace or 5 then I'd much rather 3-bet the flop and check behind on the turn to take my shot at 3-15 outs.

Seems pretty standard blind steal/draw play against many opponents. If he has air trap him for the extra .5bb and get the free river when we know we can't show down without a good one.