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Old 09-21-2005, 06:46 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default AA hand - Intended for newbies

BB is pretty new to the table, and from what you have seen, he's loose passive. MP2 is a little LAGgy. MP3 is an unknown.

What is your line for the rest of this hand? Why is your line a good one?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

maybe call/call/raise?

any discussion should include the merits of overcalls, etc. im positive that im not 3-betting the frop.

edit- call, re-evaluate on turn whether to call or raise. number of players on ea. street is huge in this hand.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

I think this is a WA/WB situation and that you want many players to come along. So I call the flop intending to overcall the turn and raise the river.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

Well a 4 is a crappy card to have so if i give anyone credit im giving it to BB(who just C/R'ed us).

However with the best FH currenty(Someone hitting set on turn/river will changes this).

I'm now calling (keep the field).

NEXT CARD PLEASE?

Thoughts for the betting ahead...(Dependant on action/card)
Turn on anycard (Preferably high - Chances of holding PP and not 3betting/raising preflop are low).

If BB bets im calling keeping the field, if its raised im going to keep calling.

River im raising.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

My goal with the rest of this hand is to win as many bets as possible, and not worrying about protecting my hand as we're ahead close to 100% of the time and not very vulnerable.

Given that goal I just call the flop looking for overcallers, not wanting to face the field with 2 cold.

If BB bets the turn I smooth call and again go for overcalls. The number of turn callers will affect the river play.

If 2 or more overcallrers are still around on the river, the smooth call again gets more bets than raising and only getting BB to call does.

If it's only 1 more overcaller I raise the BB on the river and hope he goes to war.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

If BB has a 4, oh well I am losing a few bets on this hand. And he probably is almost as likely to have a 4 as a PP, if his VPIP is really high.

I call the flop, and if BB leads I just call the turn, and the exact same on the river. Hopefully everyone else sticks around and has the chance to improve to a FH. I think that's how we get the most bets in, and get the best overlay in case he does have a 4. Raising at anypoint just serves to get it HU with the one person that we might be behind.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

You're way ahead (or, very slight chance, way behind). Build as big a pot as you can, keeping as many players in as possible.

Ideally, you want them all to pair up before the river.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:11 PM
CourtJester CourtJester is offline
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

Am i the only one who thinks that we should raise this all the way down. I dont give credit to any1 for hitting this flop so i am just pumping this pot for value as i have the second nuts right now and the only way im beaten besides a 4 is another pocket pair over 4 hitting thier 3rd to make a higher boat. Just raise for value and make notes on the end. The pot is big enough, win it already.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:13 PM
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Look at our position to the raiser. A raise on the flop faces the field with 2 bets cold, and they are likely to fold hands that have like 0% chance of catching up to us. We want to keep them in and get them to pay off on the turn and river.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: AA hand - Intended for newbies

call the flop
if bb bets turn, call, otherwise bet.
same for river if alot of people are still in (or else raise)
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