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Old 03-24-2005, 06:25 PM
freemoney freemoney is offline
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

yeah i did not realize villian had limp re-raised that really narrows the range of his hands, i like smooth calling
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Old 03-24-2005, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

no effing way im pushing PF. personally i hate putting in the third raise PF period (unless you arer playing against horrible players who call allin w/TT).
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Old 03-24-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

Pseudo-serious question:

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just do your best I am not folding JJ look and take his money.

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any advice on this? say something like "i can't fold this hand without seeing a flop" and then call? quack quack?

fim
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Old 03-24-2005, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

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quack quack?

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Old 03-24-2005, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

If I think villain is a really good player, I would take a glance at villain's stack then take a glance at MP's stack and nervously make it $320 straight.
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Old 03-24-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

Excellent advice.
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Old 03-24-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

I would call and get it all in on the flop. I think re-raising is nearly giving your hand away, and it allows KK to fold. It will be hard for the limp re-raiser to get off his KKs on a ragged flop.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

I just don't see a way to play the villian and shortstack off against each other. It's likely if you push you'll end up heads up against the shortstack, and if your having a good day, the villian will call and you'll beat him too.
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

i would try to call quickly. That should be enough.
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Old 03-25-2005, 03:13 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default Re: Weird Preflop Situation, call or push? Commerce 3/5

do you mean make it 280 straight (the size of MP)?

I assume you want me to fake the isolation raise so he can re-isolate then, right?

or am i putting in what is essentially an "i'm scared of AA/KK, this minraise will flush it out" kind of bet.

i guess i just don't get why 320 instead of 280 or 360.

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