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08-26-2005, 09:30 PM
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A Lesson on how not to play a set
Sometimes you can learn a lot from your opponents mistakes, I think that this is one of those situations. I have X'd out my hole cards to encourage discussion as to what my holding was, as imo, this is the most pivotal part of my opponents mistake.
Seat 1: pkrfang ( $975 ) Seat 2: Spoff_ ( $1110 ) Seat 3: VaTech14 ( $975 ) Seat 4: sheriffvegas ( $1040 ) Seat 5: SWISS35 ( $1020 ) Seat 6: tanhvu ( $925 ) Seat 7: BigKev00 ( $1000 ) Seat 8: igofly ( $1000 ) Seat 9: PYSCHOSPADE ( $990 ) Seat 10: uavXvau ( $965 ) Trny:15189407 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to igofly [ XXX ] tanhvu calls [15]. BigKev00 folds. igofly raises [65]. PYSCHOSPADE folds. uavXvau folds. pkrfang folds. Spoff_ folds. VaTech14 folds. sheriffvegas folds. SWISS35 calls [50]. tanhvu calls [50]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 7d, 2s ] SWISS35 checks. tanhvu checks. igofly bets [125]. SWISS35 folds. >You have options at Table 10894 Table!. tanhvu calls [125]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ] tanhvu checks. igofly bets [325]. tanhvu calls [325]. ** Dealing River ** [ Qs ] tanhvu checks. igofly checks. tanhvu shows [ 7h, 7c ] a full house, Sevens full of queens. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX 
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#2
08-26-2005, 09:37 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
The way you played it, it looks like you had AA. Had he checkraised all in on the flop/turn, i think you have to call it. Now that the Q pairs on the river, you have to be afraid he is holding Qx and check behind.
It looks like your opponent never put you on a hand, but decided he was going to check every street and let you pay him off that way. I have to be right. Right?
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08-26-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
no, i didnt have aa. no, he never put me on a hand. no you are not 100% right, buyt you are close.
Beefcake
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08-26-2005, 09:55 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
AK?
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08-26-2005, 09:58 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
[ QUOTE ]
AK is the only hand that would make sense TT, JJ, KK, QQ, AQ all make no sense given the betting line [/ QUOTE ] It was indeed AK, I think AQ would make a lot of sense too. The point in me posting this thread is to teach some people about basic hand reading. Preflop, I am a pretty tight player so I will not be raising a bunch of hands. On the flop, I could have hit a hand, or it could have been a continuation bet. On the turn I bet again. When someone acts aggressively on the first three streets early in a sng, they usually have a hand, especially when there is a king and a queen on the board. I hate how he played the turn as he could have had all of my chips had he pushed. On the river, it is not too bad considering that AQ is a logical holding, and I would have pushed that. Regardless, slowplaying a set turned boat on all three streets against a good player who is betting behind you is just bad. Beefcake
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08-26-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
The moeran had 2-2
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08-26-2005, 10:03 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
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The moeran had 2-2 [/ QUOTE ] Cmon....I learned how to play these from your son, not you.
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#9
08-26-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] AK is the only hand that would make sense TT, JJ, KK, QQ, AQ all make no sense given the betting line [/ QUOTE ] It was indeed AK, I think AQ would make a lot of sense too. The point in me posting this thread is to teach some people about basic hand reading. Preflop, I am a pretty tight player so I will not be raising a bunch of hands. On the flop, I could have hit a hand, or it could have been a continuation bet. On the turn I bet again. When someone acts aggressively on the first three streets early in a sng, they usually have a hand, especially when there is a king and a queen on the board. I hate how he played the turn as he could have had all of my chips had he pushed. On the river, it is not too bad considering that AQ is a logical holding, and I would have pushed that. Regardless, slowplaying a set turned boat on all three streets against a good player who is betting behind you is just bad. Beefcake [/ QUOTE ] At what point was villian up against a "good" player?
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08-26-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: A Lesson on how not to play a set
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] AK is the only hand that would make sense TT, JJ, KK, QQ, AQ all make no sense given the betting line [/ QUOTE ] It was indeed AK, I think AQ would make a lot of sense too. The point in me posting this thread is to teach some people about basic hand reading. Preflop, I am a pretty tight player so I will not be raising a bunch of hands. On the flop, I could have hit a hand, or it could have been a continuation bet. On the turn I bet again. When someone acts aggressively on the first three streets early in a sng, they usually have a hand, especially when there is a king and a queen on the board. I hate how he played the turn as he could have had all of my chips had he pushed. On the river, it is not too bad considering that AQ is a logical holding, and I would have pushed that. Regardless, slowplaying a set turned boat on all three streets against a good player who is betting behind you is just bad. Beefcake [/ QUOTE ] At what point was villian up against a "good" player? [/ QUOTE ] touche
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