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Old 11-05-2005, 02:18 PM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Big pocket pairs

My stats are right in the guidelines from the FAQ, but I continue to win the small pots and lose the big ones. I win consistently in tight games and lose consistently in loose ones. So I'm posting hands.

AA1
UTG+1 47.41/17.24/1.42
MP2 40.43/8.51/.35

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (14 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 17 BB


AA2
MP1 63.16/5.26/.96

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button folds.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB


KK1
MP2 54.79/9.59/.45

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (5.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB


KK2
MP1 20.59/2.94/1.20

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (14.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB


QQ1
MP2 50.36/12.95/1.33

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB


QQ2
BB 26.25/6.25/2.18

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:27 PM
stuartharris stuartharris is offline
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Default Re: Big pocket pairs

In the second AA hand, I have to check/call that river. With that ridiculous 63.16 VPIP and 0.96 Aggression, there's a very good chance MP1's been hanging around with a 9. I'm surprised that you didn't get raised on the river, however, so you may have pulled this pot in.
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Big pocket pairs

Hand 1 and 2 shouldn't even be posted, you need to bet every street here and I hope you know that.

I'm not sure if a villain is bluff raising this board enough to call the river in Hand 3.

Hand 4 is not that bad, maybe even a big overplayed on the turn. I probably just call his check raise. The turn isn't very scary, but he goes nuts. His hand is very strong here. If an overcard to the flop comes, then you can play it as you did.

Hand 5 Cap the flop.
Hand 6 is fine
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:44 PM
eviljeff eviljeff is offline
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Default Re: Big pocket pairs

AA1 - fine

AA2 - I think this is a c/c

KK1 - b/c here is spew against a .45 aggr factor. this is an easy b/f, maybe a c/c.

KK2 - fine

QQ1 - are you kidding me? 3bet this flop. get your money in while you are a huge fav. given the way you played it you should definitely c/r the river.

QQ2 - fine
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Big pocket pairs

goddang forum clears this friggin text box if I accidentally click a link and come back! GARGHGHAHGH


OK, I just want to comment on hand 4: I see another biggish pair here (QQ-99) more than a set, so I agree with the turn 3-bet. The cap is unfortunate, and I think you have to call this river with the big pot.


edit: error
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:31 PM
SoftcoreRevolt SoftcoreRevolt is offline
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Default Re: Big pocket pairs

I don't think this is a big Pocket Pair very often at all. Villains PFR% includes the big pocket pairs, and if he's not raising TT PF, I don't see him slow playing it to the turn and then going nuts against the PFR with such a normal aggression factor.
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