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Old 06-30-2005, 06:10 AM
bobdibble bobdibble is offline
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Default Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

No particular read on villian.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $30.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ?
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Old 06-30-2005, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

strange hand. I can't see folding this. This looks like you will chop a good amount of the time w/ something like KxJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. You might still be ahead against something like KQ as well. I call and look him up.. if he has a flush or A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J so be it.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

Your hand is nowhere near good enough to raise or bad enough to fold. So just pay it off.
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Old 06-30-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

if he had the flush he would have reraised the turn i think
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

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Your hand is nowhere near good enough to raise or bad enough to fold. So just pay it off.

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Old 06-30-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

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if he had the flush he would have reraised the turn i think

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Some people do, some people don't. Hero is representing a big hand here, and most people aren't 3 betting with a small flush here. But most people wouldn't donkbet it on the river either.

His flop bet could be anything.

His turn donkbet is usually indicitave of a hand that he doesn't want checked through. This means he's probably putting you on anything from an overpair w/ a club to a set. Tough to put you on QJ at this point. You're turn raise could be read as a "i have a draw, and i'm going to call the river so i'll raise, check behind if I miss, bet if I hit" raise to him, so he still might be putting you on a big pair. Some people 3 bet with a flush in this spot, some don't.

His river donkbet is cleary one he thinks he's making for value, but we still can't' say for sure what he thinks you have. I think this looks more like a flopped 2pair then a flopped flush, and I might be inclined to raise this river. I'd be more worried if he had c/r the turn, showing that he wasn't worried about you checking behind.

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Old 06-30-2005, 03:59 PM
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Hero raises (I don't like this in retrospect) Villian calls.

Villan shows 45c for the flopped flush. MHING. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-01-2005, 05:13 PM
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Hero raises (I don't like this in retrospect) Villian calls.

Villan shows 45c for the flopped flush. MHING. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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bad raise, he's probably folding any hand you beat, 2 pair or whatever. You also have to call a reraise and most likely just split the pot.
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Old 07-01-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Reverse trifecta\'d.. aka. I was tripple donked.... where am I?

the turn is not a donk bet.
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:50 PM
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if he had the flush he would have reraised the turn i think

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I actually see this line quite a bit from small flushes. I think they're waiting to see if another club comes off on the river.
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