Party 100 multi bubble situation--easy push or fold ?

[ShortySaurus]

22 players left--top 20 make money. Table just switched up so no reads.

I'm the button with 2223 chips and the blinds are 100 / 200. UTG (4887 chips) makes it 600 to go. Folded to me and I look down at A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I????

[remen]

This is a pretty easy fold even in a non bubble situation unless the UTG raiser is very LAG. Since you just got moved and have no read on the raiser you must give him credit for having a good hand.

[curtains]

Dont forget that UTG here likely means first to act at a 7 handed table. A lot different than 10 handed table.

[sloth469]

I think this is a very easy push or fold. Which you decide is really up to you. The worst thing you could do is put 600 in here and then fold to any flop bet. If you go here it is for the whole ball of wax. With only 7 people at the table and the bubble on the horizon he could very easily have a weaker ace or worse.

I think it comes down to what is important to you. The fact of the matter is you are going to have to win a race at some point to win this thing. Does sliding into the money before taking this shot appeal to you?

Did you put the raiser on a range? If so what was it? Hope this worked out for you.

-sloth

[runnerunner]

What are the other stack sizes like on all three tables? You'd hate to push here and then realize that two players are pretty close to being blinded out on the other tables. If there were 3 stacks smaller than mine, I would fold. If not, I would push.

[woodguy]

You are not in danger of blinding out right now, so I fold.

UTG raises are best not tangled with for all your chips with AQo.

Especially when he can bust you, and you cannot bust him.

Yes you need to double up, but you want to find the right situation. This is not it.

I would always rather be the aggressor with AQo (or any hand for that matter) than getting involved in a raised pot with it.

Mind the Gap.

Regards,
Woodguy

[schwza]

party pays a relatively high amount to those who barely make the money (around 2x buy-in, i think), so that indicates you should be more willing to fold.

what kind of a range do you put utg on here? he's first in in what is essentially MP2 on the bubble, and he's only committing 12% of his chips. if i were him, i would be raising fairly light - we always say the bubble is a good time to accumulate.

he'll have to call 1623 in a pot with 1500 in dead money (600+600+200+100), so he'll need slightly better than 1/3. i think a decent utg will be folding hands like KJ.

but i would expect him to call with just about any pair. if he calls with a small pair, i'd guess it's about breakeven in chipEV, but it's got to be negative in cashEV. and of course the situations where a blind wakes up with QQ-AA / AK (about 4% that one will have it) or that utg had it to begin with.

i guess i'm not convinced that an unknown utg would be playing as aggressively as i would be (i'd be surprised if he were), so his range might not include marginal hands like KJ.

so this was really just a long-winded post to say "fold."

[ShortySaurus]

Oh yes, forgot to mention it was 7 handed

[2005]

I fold here... You're not desperate so let it go and move on to find a better spot where you can be the first one into the pot.

Gavin Griffin

[ShortySaurus]

and what if it was AK ?? Easy fold?