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Old 10-08-2005, 06:05 PM
RJT RJT is offline
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Default Re: To believe or not to believe - that is the quesiton.

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Apathetic agnosticism

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Hey, chez, I thought of this first (see my post above) . Man, I guess there is nothing new under the sun.

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Old 10-08-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: To believe or not to believe - that is the quesiton.

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I have always defined an atheist as one who says there is no possibility of a god and an agnostic as one who is not sure.

You made the following statement - Can we agree on this: That to believe that “there is absolutely no possibility of a God” is as “silly” a thinking as how agnostics view what believers think (them silly) about their religion?

I do not agree. Silly or not, whether I can prove it or not, I don't care - “there is absolutely no possibility of a God”. This has been debated endless times here - that since it can't be 'proven' that there is not a god then you can't be certain there isn't one. Well, I for one am certain. Anyone else certain or am I the only one?

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Actually Cab, I don’t believe any of the stances are silly. But, for those who throw taggers at religion, I suggested they throw ‘em at folk like you, too. That was my point.

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It does sound silly but it doesn't look any different in meaning to all the other non-theist folk. There's a recognition that he doesn't know there's no god and that he has no reason to believe there is a god.

What actual form does this certainty take, is it any difference to those who say thay aren't certain because they require proof for certainty.

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Old 10-08-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: To believe or not to believe - that is the quesiton.

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Never been called Cab before. I try not to throw 'taggers' at religious people though I must admit I do not understand them.

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Sure, likewise.

At any rate Cab, I think you need not worry. Especially after the moderator's post regarding big game hunting. We the Big Fish (believers), you (atheists) garnishment. I don't see 'em coming after you for dinner anytime soon.

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Old 10-08-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: To believe or not to believe - that is the quesiton.

Now that has the making of a great poll!
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:21 PM
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Now that has the making of a great poll!

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Just for you guy - check the new poll.
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