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11-13-2005, 11:59 PM
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Forgive me for asking, but...
I'm in the middle of a huge (200 BB) downswing, the biggest of my life, and i'm re-evaluating some of my basic decisions. Here's a couple of hands that i'm wondering about.
Hand 1: Online 15/30. Sorry the converter wouldn't work. BB is a lag (37/14/2.2), others are irrelevant. I'm the SB w/ AA. Two PF callers, I raise, BB calls as do the limpers. Flop is Q99. I bet, BB calls, utg limper (L/P) calls. Turn's a 5. I bet and they both call. River is a 9. I bet, SB raises. UTG limper folds, hero? Hand 2: I'm in the c/o w/ KJs. UTG+1 limps (38/8/2.2). Folded to me and I raise. Blinds fold, heads up. Flop is J99 and goes check/call. Turn is a 4. Checked to me, I bet, he raises. I ? I know these probably seem insanely simple, but this downswing has me questioning every decision I make. If you think this thread is stupid or a waste of your time please ignore it, but if you feel like contributing, please do so. Thanks, lf 
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#2
11-14-2005, 12:17 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
Hand 1: I've seen people pull this kind of play with Qx (because their kicker no longer matters) and I've seen people slowplay trips until the river. I think any option besides folding is good. If I'm feeling laggy, I'd raise.
Hand 2: Ugh, my standard is to call down in these type of situations, but a turn checkraise from a 38/8/2.2 screams of a 9. He'd have bet/3-bet the flop with a J.
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#3
11-14-2005, 12:35 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
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Hand 1: You are probably winning here, but I only call because you will get 4-bet every time your opponent has a 9. And I don't like 3-betting and folding on the river. My opponent might cap it with KQ figuring he is splitting with AQ. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hand 2: Call down against most oponents. This player seems too aggressive to fold against. [/ QUOTE ]
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#4
11-14-2005, 12:43 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
hand 1, easy raise.
hand 2, call and consider raising the river.
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#5
11-14-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
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hand 1, easy raise. hand 2, call and consider raising the river. [/ QUOTE ] I hand 1 you do mean easy 3 bet, right? Do you call if capped? Hand 2 a river raises is something I wouldnt have thought about, i'm assuming you fold to a 3 bet... lf
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#6
11-14-2005, 04:20 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
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[ QUOTE ] hand 1, easy raise. hand 2, call and consider raising the river. [/ QUOTE ] I hand 1 you do mean easy 3 bet, right? Do you call if capped? Hand 2 a river raises is something I wouldnt have thought about, i'm assuming you fold to a 3 bet... lf [/ QUOTE ] never fold hand 1 no matter what. hand 2 you will prob want to put 4 BBs on turn/river but NOT 5... if u put in 5, u will lose... so yeah, do what you gotta do.
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#7
11-14-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
hand 1 raise
hand 2 raise/fold to re-raise
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#9
11-14-2005, 06:33 AM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
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[ QUOTE ] hand 1 raise hand 2 raise/fold to re-raise [/ QUOTE ] lines that involve folding top pair for the same price as seeing showdown are bad. [/ QUOTE ]thats just something ppl say but it makes zero sense. sry.
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#10
11-14-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: Forgive me for asking, but...
so you dont think villain is ever folding to a three bet here often enough to lay down a hand like QJ or better?
my thinking was if the three bet gets him to laydown a better hand ever, it's worth it, and, if he caps, which is rare unless you're seriously beaten, well, you can check behind often times for the same price with the advantage of possible getting a better hand to fold, and, if he caps it on the turn you were beat anyways....???
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