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Old 11-23-2005, 05:43 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default ATo 6 max hand - comments appreciated

This is not one of mine and I have already offered my comments which I will tell you now.

Hero is UTG (6 handed) with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero raises, CO calls, and BB calls (6.75 SB)

Flop comes 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Now I have said I would bet this safe looking flop

Hero BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks (6.75 SB)

Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Not sure of thhe correct course of action here, but I still lean towards a bet.

BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks (3.38 BB)

River is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls

(final pot 9 BBs after rake)

Hero is getting 8-1 on his river call and closing the action, but I am really unsure if it is good often enough, I guess it's not a massive mistake if at all, I would appreciate your comments here, as the whole thing puzzles me for such a routine hand.

Thanks and Regards Mack
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: ATo 6 max hand - comments appreciated

I'd bet the flop, we have the best hand here a majority of the time.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:53 PM
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Boy would I feel foolish if CO has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and was just itching to fold. Bet the flop. River call (after the raise and overcall) is pretty marginal, if not a little -EV. A ten is not a monster kicker, and the flush is at least somewhat likely, but at least you're closing the action. The final river decision is pretty marginal; it's the flop and turn decisions that cost hero the pot.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: ATo 6 max hand - comments appreciated

his ten kicker doesn't play anyway.

should've bet the flop.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: ATo 6 max hand - comments appreciated

Fold preflop. Bet the flop.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: ATo 6 max hand - comments appreciated

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Fold preflop.

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are you really folding this utg 6-handed?

not that i'll start folding it too, but i'm curious.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:58 PM
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his ten kicker doesn't play anyway.

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Right, good point. I'm still not that hip to counterfeiting.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:04 PM
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Fold preflop.

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are you really folding this utg 6-handed?

not that i'll start folding it too, but i'm curious.

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Well shiver me timbers. Ida sworn on a stack of Bibles that hero's hand was A6o, not ATo. Raise = g00t. Dunno where I got the 6.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:31 PM
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Bet/call flop, bet/fold turn, bet/call river.
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Old 11-23-2005, 07:00 PM
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Not betting that flop was a huge mistake. The hand probably ends right there and Hero has 6.75 SB more in his pocket than he had before.

After that he's only letting his opponents catch up, and a lot of 6-max players don't 3-bet AJo or even AQo.

By river, CO probably can't fathom that Hero wouldn't have bet an ace on the flop, thus the raise. Call, because although he may have one of the above hands or a spade, it's more likely CO has a weaker ace.
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