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#1
12-20-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: Play from the blinds: T6s
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not even betting that flop. It's an absolutely horrendous one for T6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Do I really have to say those three words again.. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] As I already posted, I'm suprised at this. Surely this flop is just as scary for him as it is you. We have top pair and position. Roughly half the time he has neither a heart nor a T, which makes it tough to call the flop bet. So I toss out a bet ~40, and see what he does. If he calls, I'm definitely not betting the turn. 
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#2
12-20-2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: Play from the blinds: T6s
The thing is, again, once he calls you lose control of the hand. He is now free to fold when he doesn't improve and isn't ahead, and make life very difficult for you (if he plays it properly) on the turn and river if he is ahead. Even if he has a draw here only, you'll be checking the turn giving him infinite odds to hit any draw he might be on. And of course when say the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the river.. what are you going to do? It's a classic case of reverse implied odds. Even a 9 is going to be horrible to play - what if he has a jack? Maybe he already has the flush? Are you comfortable to play for more chips if you "improve"? So many difficult questions and it's just going to be an extremely hard hand to play for profit, even with position, with such a co-ordinated board on future streets - even if you are ahead right now.
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#3
12-20-2005, 12:25 PM
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Re: Play from the blinds: T6s
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The thing is, again, once he calls you lose control of the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Once that flop comes, you lose control of the hand. Are you calling any turn bets if you check the flop? wuwei's point - and it's one I agree with - is that this is a fine spot to go ahead and try to take the pot on a scary looking board. I think having a weak T is immaterial, as I don't intend to showdown on this board. That said, I think Scuba's T has more chance to be good than some people are giving him. I can definitely see the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] playing this way.
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#4
12-20-2005, 03:42 PM
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Re: Play from the blinds: T6s
You can bet if you want and you have the right idea, namely that your hand has slightly, but not much more, value to showdown on this board than 32o* and if you bet one you should probably bet the other.
I don't bet because this is a situation where I think I'll often have to do things like check turn/call river blanks if called and there are reverse implied odds written all over this hand. I'd give it a shot with more chips, though, and I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that; it's just not my play style. However, Scuba is betting because he has top pair and a gutshot. That's wrong, IMO. *not because it's equal to 32o, but because vs. hands that want to see a showdown enough to continue, well, basically, see turn action.
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