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Old 07-20-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default UTG with 2x BB in stack

Blinds 160/320. My stack = about 640. 6 players left, average stack around 1500. What hands should I push with here? Push anything and pray or sit back, pay the blind and pray for a big hand the next orbit?
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: UTG with 2x BB in stack

A better question would be to ask what hands you shouldn't push.

I wouldn't push 32o-82o, 73o, 83o. Your next hand will be better. I'd push anything else.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: UTG with 2x BB in stack

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A better question would be to ask what hands you shouldn't push.

I wouldn't push 32o-82o, 73o, 83o. Your next hand will be better. I'd push anything else.

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Really? I generally push ten high or better here, but I also include 95o and similar hands in the fold category.

I guess maybe this is just quibbling.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: UTG with 2x BB in stack

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A better question would be to ask what hands you shouldn't push.

I wouldn't push 32o-82o, 73o, 83o. Your next hand will be better. I'd push anything else.

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that's way too loose, imo. i'd fold a hand as good as Q9. Q7 is average (at least it's 50-50 hot and cold against a random hand), and there's incentive to go with your next one instead of this one. if you double up this hand, you'll have ~4.5x bb's, but still have to pay your BB. if you double up next hand, you'll have 4.5x bb's but have finished with your BB responsibility. i would not fold my BB under any circumstances if i fold utg, btw.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: UTG with 2x BB in stack

Yes, I probably exclude a few more hands as well, but my point is that you're committed next hand, so your range should be pretty wide.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:26 PM
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I think folding Qx would be a mistake.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: UTG with 2x BB in stack

why? you're getting much better than Q2 on average next hand.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:32 PM
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Not often enough to feel comfortable enough throwing away a Q.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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and there's incentive to go with your next one instead of this one. if you double up this hand, you'll have ~4.5x bb's, but still have to pay your BB. if you double up next hand, you'll have 4.5x bb's but have finished with your BB responsibility.

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Wow, I never thought of that. Nice post. So really you should push here with a better then 50% hand because a double up is worth less this hand then next.
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