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Old 07-20-2005, 05:49 PM
WebGuySteve WebGuySteve is offline
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Default a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

I have no reads on anyone at this time.

Here is the hand, I will post my thought process after this gets some responses, then, the results:

***** Hand History for Game 2396231496 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:14108533 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, July 20, 17:31:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 14006 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: yohan333 ( $940 )
Seat 10: EvetsYugBew1 ( $1065 )
Seat 1: KiepDoDen04 ( $940 )
Seat 2: Diesel882 ( $1010 )
Seat 7: bluffman75 ( $1100 )
Seat 9: peakman ( $925 )
Seat 8: Bloodthurst ( $975 )
Seat 4: HalconGris ( $1025 )
Seat 3: differentone ( $1030 )
Seat 6: louster ( $990 )
Trny:14108533 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvetsYugBew1 [ Ac Qc ]
HalconGris raises [50].
yohan333 folds.
louster calls [50].
bluffman75 calls [50].
Bloodthurst folds.
peakman calls [50].
EvetsYugBew1 calls [50].
KiepDoDen04 folds.
Diesel882 calls [40].
>You have options at Table 14002 Table!.
differentone folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 6h, 2d ]
Diesel882 checks.
HalconGris checks.
louster bets [215].
bluffman75 folds.
>You have options at Table 13984 Table!.
peakman folds.
EvetsYugBew1 calls [215].
>You have options at Table 13984 Table!.
Diesel882 calls [215].
>You have options at Table 14002 Table!.
>You have options at Table 13984 Table!.
HalconGris folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
Diesel882 checks.
>You have options at Table 13984 Table!.
louster bets [500].
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem


Id move allin on the flop.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

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Id move allin on the flop.

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Good plan
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

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Id move allin on the flop.

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I was going to do this, I'd like to get a few more responses before I say why I didn't. Then you can pick apart my thought process.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

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Id move allin on the flop.

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I was going to do this, I'd like to get a few more responses before I say why I didn't. Then you can pick apart my thought process.

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I'm gonna guess it involves pushing on the turn when the flush misses. I might try something like this with fewer players hanging around, but in a big pot like this I just want to shut everyone out and if the draw calls getting the odds he needs then I guess I'll just have to take my 2-1 edge and live with it.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

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Id move allin on the flop.

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I was going to do this, I'd like to get a few more responses before I say why I didn't. Then you can pick apart my thought process.

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Honestly I feel you are just making poker harder than it is by doing anything other than allin here IMO, and I highly doubt calling is more +EV.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Jay36489 Jay36489 is offline
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

I assume you aren't calling here with the thought of laying this down at any point. Perhaps you are hoping to trap original raiser if he has a weaker Q that he might be willing to lay down to a push? Somewhat dangerous, but if you push the flop and you are beat (unlikely 2pr or set) you are busted. If you make this play and you were beat the whole time you are busted all the same. If you can assume the level of play at a 215 is such that people aren't calling here with a missed AK or 2nd pair, but will lay down a weaker Q to a flop push this could work.

Am I even close?
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

I fold preflop.

I probably go broke when I hit tptk and wish I had folded preflop.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

I was about to post asking how log it would be before someone would say to fold preflop.

I know people hate AQ early, but if you can't play AQs in LP with 4 players already in the pot for 5% of your stack. Well ... I'm sorry.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: a 2+2 oddity...a postflop problem

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I was about to post asking how log it would be before someone would say to fold preflop.

I know people hate AQ early, but if you can't play AQs in LP with 4 players already in the pot for 5% of your stack. Well ... I'm sorry.

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I think the thing is though it's a raised pot, and 4 have called the raise. I probably don't fold this either though. It's not at 25/50 blinds.
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