I found this hand interesting

private joker · #1 08-31-2005, 03:06 AM

PFR is on the LAGgy side and is getting short stacked. UTG+1 is a calling station.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

thirddan · #2 08-31-2005, 03:16 AM

i like it...i assume that if UTG raises the turn and UTG+1 calls that you are calling down, but what if UTG+1 raises?

private joker · #3 08-31-2005, 03:20 AM

I'm folding to an UTG+1 raise, but if he cold-calls a UTG raise, I'm still worried on the river unless I improve.

cmwck · #4 08-31-2005, 03:54 AM

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I'm folding to an UTG+1 raise, but if he cold-calls a UTG raise, I'm still worried on the river unless I improve.

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Is UTG+1 so passive that he can't have a worse ten? Or do people just not cold-call PF with KT, QT,, JT, at 5/10 level?

private joker · #5 08-31-2005, 03:55 AM

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Is UTG+1 so passive that he can't have a worse ten? Or do people just not cold-call PF with KT, QT,, JT, at 5/10 level?

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No, they certainly do, and it's definitely one of the hands I can put him on.

toss · #6 08-31-2005, 03:56 AM

Looks good to me.

cmwck · #7 08-31-2005, 04:05 AM

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Is UTG+1 so passive that he can't have a worse ten? Or do people just not cold-call PF with KT, QT,, JT, at 5/10 level?

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No, they certainly do, and it's definitely one of the hands I can put him on.

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How does that add up to folding tptk on the turn if UTG+1 raises? The multi-way factor?

Carmine · #8 08-31-2005, 05:16 AM

I like it given the player descriptions.

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Is UTG+1 so passive that he can't have a worse ten? Or do people just not cold-call PF with KT, QT,, JT, at 5/10 level?

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No, they certainly do, and it's definitely one of the hands I can put him on.

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How does that add up to folding tptk on the turn if UTG+1 raises? The multi-way factor?

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Calling staions don't raise a 3-flush turn without something that beats us IMO.

thejameser · #9 08-31-2005, 08:22 AM

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Looks good to me.

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lerxst337 · #10 08-31-2005, 08:35 AM

Calling staions don't raise a 3-flush turn without something that beats us IMO.

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Please don't take this personally, but I think this is just plain wrong. It seems many awful players that I am often up against will ONLY get aggressive when they have nut flush draws. The board pairs, and they lay down, but put a flush on the board, and the raises come like crazy..., at least where I play.