Mississippi Stud...

[PokerGoblin]

Does anyone ever play this variation? I have never heard of it being spread in any casinos, and since I was introduced to it, I have yet to run into someone who had played it before.

Mississippi Stud is the same is regular stud, except 4th and 5th street are dealt at the same time (with a single burn), and 7th street is dealt face up.

We spread it in the home games that I host, it works much better for pot limit than traditional stud does.

PL Mississippi Razz is also a blast.

Just curious if anyone has heard of this.

PG

Another note: A couple friends of mine were in Tunica for the WPO and Mississippi Stud was nowhere to be found.

[mscags]

Never heard of it

[Trip8s]

Tunica casinos have a hard enough time keeping regular 7 card stud games going. I seriously doubt there's enough interest for stud variations.

[beta1607]

sounds like a good game to introduce next time I am playing with my buddies and drinking/smoking cigars but I dont think it would be that great in a cardroom or online.

[PokrLikeItsProse]

Mississippi stud was invented in 1998 by David Zanetti. See here.

[Andy B]

David Zanetti used to post a lot on here and RGP about this game, and was trying to gain credit as the inventor of the greatest poker variation since Follow-the-Queen. Thing is, poker games aren't invented--they evolve. The first recorded poker hand (which involved cheating) was played with a 20-card deck. That evolved to the modern 52-card deck. Originally, you just got dealt five cards, bet, and showed 'em down. Later, the draw was added. Then stud came along. Originally, it was just five-card stud, but eventually people started playing six-card, seven-card, and eight-card stud, and eventually people decided that seven-card was about right. Hold'em probably originated when a largish number of people showed up for a game and there was only one dealer or one deck of cards or something. I would guess that they didn't hit upon the 3-1-1 pattern for community cards that first night--that was probably something that evolved over time. They probably used an ante rather than blinds at first. A single blind was common for a long time, and later they experimented with two blinds and even three, and now I think it's pretty hard to find a hold'em game that doesn't have two blinds.

There are lots of little things like this. Back during the 19th century, you couldn't check as you can now. You had to either bet or fold. Thing was, you could make a very small bet, say ten cents into a $20 pot, which preserved your right to stay in the hand without giving away any information. Someone decided that this was a nuisance, so rather than toss a small check into the pot, you could just say, "check". (Chips are also called checks for those of you who don't play in casinos.)

Anyway, Zanetti thought that his invention should entitle him to great fame or something, so he made a lot of posts seeking recognition. I gather it's a fun game, although I've never played it myself. I think that he talked some casinos into trying it, but it never took. I guess it has been played on BARGE-type events, but I don't know much about them.

I believe that Mississippi stud is so called because of the "Big River," which is dealt face-up, which is supposedly crucial for a big bet game. Apparently, you can't go all-in if you don't know you have the nuts. I don't know, maybe Zanetti can explain it.

[Bartholow]

Yeah, they aren't spreading it here in Vegas either [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Some nice thorough answers here, just wanted to add that I have played and I do think it is a good game, for both limit and big bet. Getting it to catch on, especially during the NL holdem boom, is another story...

[PokerGoblin]

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David Zanetti used to post a lot on here and RGP about this game, and was trying to gain credit as the inventor of the greatest poker variation since Follow-the-Queen. Thing is, poker games aren't invented--they evolve. The first recorded poker hand (which involved cheating) was played with a 20-card deck. That evolved to the modern 52-card deck. Originally, you just got dealt five cards, bet, and showed 'em down. Later, the draw was added. Then stud came along. Originally, it was just five-card stud, but eventually people started playing six-card, seven-card, and eight-card stud, and eventually people decided that seven-card was about right. Hold'em probably originated when a largish number of people showed up for a game and there was only one dealer or one deck of cards or something. I would guess that they didn't hit upon the 3-1-1 pattern for community cards that first night--that was probably something that evolved over time. They probably used an ante rather than blinds at first. A single blind was common for a long time, and later they experimented with two blinds and even three, and now I think it's pretty hard to find a hold'em game that doesn't have two blinds.

There are lots of little things like this. Back during the 19th century, you couldn't check as you can now. You had to either bet or fold. Thing was, you could make a very small bet, say ten cents into a $20 pot, which preserved your right to stay in the hand without giving away any information. Someone decided that this was a nuisance, so rather than toss a small check into the pot, you could just say, "check". (Chips are also called checks for those of you who don't play in casinos.)

Anyway, Zanetti thought that his invention should entitle him to great fame or something, so he made a lot of posts seeking recognition. I gather it's a fun game, although I've never played it myself. I think that he talked some casinos into trying it, but it never took. I guess it has been played on BARGE-type events, but I don't know much about them.

I believe that Mississippi stud is so called because of the "Big River," which is dealt face-up, which is supposedly crucial for a big bet game. Apparently, you can't go all-in if you don't know you have the nuts. I don't know, maybe Zanetti can explain it.

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Nice post.

The game works great for pot limit. In regular stud you have to call two bets before any straights or flushes are possible. PL makes that extremely unprofitable.

In Miss. Stud with 4th and 5th street coming together, the pot is usually fairly small when every active player has 5 cards. It's kinda like a holdem game where everyone has their own board.

PG