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Old 12-20-2005, 03:28 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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I can't remember, but I think a BDS is 1 out. We may be splitting or "splitting by three" (is there a word for that?) the straight though, so I'd give us something like 0.65 for it rather than 1.

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I think .65 is too low, I'd guess about twice that.

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FYI, I was using the number given to me on page 103 in SSHE (I had to look it up just to make sure before posting). I double-checked this with a pot-odds chart I made in excel, and it is indeed about 1 out. I'm cutting it down a bit because we win half the pot when we split, and we don't split all the time... I figure about 0.65 is a reasonable number here.

The page also shows the exact math behind it.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:35 AM
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[23:53] Entity: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
[23:53] Entity: w3e are drunk
[23:53] Entity: but I think I like the way he played htis
[23:55] jason_t: yeah of course
[23:55] jason_t: i don't get it
[23:55] Entity: don't get what?
[23:55] Entity: PF?
[23:55] Entity: flop?
[23:55] Entity: turn?
[23:55] jason_t: pf standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: flop standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: turn standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: yes
[23:55] jason_t: starndard
[23:55] jason_t: i don't get it
[23:55] Entity: pqoiwejf;lkj
[23:55] Entity: h8h8
[23:55] jason_t: wtf
[23:56] Entity: ahaha
[23:56] Entity: I think it's standard too
[23:56] jason_t: LOL
[23:56] jason_t: h8
[23:56] jason_t: 'er [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:36 AM
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[23:53] Entity: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
[23:53] Entity: w3e are drunk
[23:53] Entity: but I think I like the way he played htis
[23:55] jason_t: yeah of course
[23:55] jason_t: i don't get it
[23:55] Entity: don't get what?
[23:55] Entity: PF?
[23:55] Entity: flop?
[23:55] Entity: turn?
[23:55] jason_t: pf standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: flop standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: turn standard imo
[23:55] jason_t: yes
[23:55] jason_t: starndard
[23:55] jason_t: i don't get it
[23:55] Entity: pqoiwejf;lkj
[23:55] Entity: h8h8
[23:55] jason_t: wtf
[23:56] Entity: ahaha
[23:56] Entity: I think it's standard too
[23:56] jason_t: LOL
[23:56] jason_t: h8
[23:56] jason_t: 'er [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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h8.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:39 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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FYI, I was using the number given to me on page 103 in SSHE

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It says straights with no gaps are worth about the same as a flush draw. One-gappers are the ones worth 1 out, not this one.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:40 AM
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[23:53] Entity: w3e are drunk

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OMG THANKS FOR THE SWEAT JASON
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:44 AM
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OOC?

btw, i think domination is fairly irrelevant here. we are playing this for straight and flush
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:45 AM
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[23:53] Entity: w3e are drunk

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OMG THANKS FOR THE SWEAT JASON

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OMFG 3-BET THE TURN WITH MIDDLE SEX NEXT TIME.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:46 AM
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i just about pissed myself laughing at that chat log
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:48 AM
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IIRC, a LONG time ago we had a discussion where I talked about checking AJo in the BB vs 6 limpers, and you said that since I had a PF pokerstove edge I should push it now. I

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I wouldn't raise AJo but I'd raise AJs and ATs and QTs and T9s and all sorts of suited hands. Your equity is better and you've got a better chance of realizing your full equity with a suited connector than you do with an offsuit broadway. Your RIE is a lot worse with AJo than with QTs.

Postflop it's pretty effing good, and if he can play like this postflop he can definitely raise this preflop. On a rainbow flop there's a chance I would lead (esp. with a BD diamond draw) but I don't hate a check at all.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:50 AM
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[23:53] Entity: w3e are drunk

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OMG THANKS FOR THE SWEAT JASON

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Never trust jason_ twhen his answer is "raise."
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