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Old 11-16-2005, 05:52 AM
vanHelsing vanHelsing is offline
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Default Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

SB is donk.
UTG has stats of 25/2/2 over a couple of 100 hands. I must admit, I do not have a good read on him, but can't remember having seen him doing anything out of line or overly imaginative.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($200)
Hero ($490.70)
CO ($739.90)
Button ($231.32)
SB ($142.15)
BB ($362.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $32</font>, Hero calls $32 <font color="green">(???) </font> , Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($89) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $70</font>, Hero <font color="green">??? </font>
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

I think he more than likely has over pair (UTG raise). With no reads, I think I call the flop bet (let him get more money involved), and raise the turn putting him all in. If he is holding JJ, then you might be toast, but pretty much any other holding from that position you are sitting good. IMO
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

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I think he more than likely has over pair (UTG raise).

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What do you mean? PF he just called.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

I certainly raise this on the flop.

As played I push the turn.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

Look at SB's line - it looks like he has [censored], look at your line - it looks like you have a draw. I wouldn't be suprised if UTG has a jack here. You cannot fold here. Get the money in there.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

yeah, i think that too, but the question is, raise him here or call him and hope he leads out again on the next bet..

I think i would flat call him and check raise him on the turn and or river...
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

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I think i would flat call him and check raise him on the turn and or river...


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I have position...
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

With your flat call on the flop, UTG may be fearing another spade. But I really can think of anything other then 66 that makes sense if he is solid.
Of course you wouldnt expect the huge raise he made right away either if he did have the 6s.

Im actually pretty confused lol

But I would get my money in here. Jacks are highly unlikely the way its played so theres really only 1 hand that has you beat.

Who knows mabey he has KJ of spades
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

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I certainly raise this on the flop.

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Why?
Which better hands will fold, which worse hands will call?
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Good spot to fold the bottom set? - 1/2 6max

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I certainly raise this on the flop.

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Why?
Which better hands will fold, which worse hands will call?

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Because of the draws out there and to build a nice pot right there.
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