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Old 01-21-2005, 05:54 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Bubble Play - is this a leak?

I can't tell you how many times I've come in 4th this way. Well I could but it would make me nautious.

Is there a better way to play this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3225)
SB (t1560)
BB (t1975)
Hero (t1240)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1240 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t1040.

Flop: (t2580) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2580) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2580) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2580

Villain put his tourney life on the line with A9. Which essentially put me out! I know I should be happy, but...
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

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Is there a better way to play this?


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Uh, no.
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:09 PM
Phoenix1010 Phoenix1010 is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

Not sure if you're joking...
As a shortstack on the bubble with about 6x BB I can't imagine anyone advising you to play it any differently. It's a very easy push. And yes, you should be happy to have all your money in when you're dominating your opponent. Tough break that it didn't work out for you, but getting all in as a 3 to 1 favorite is definitely not a leak. (Sorry if this was a joke post after all.)

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Steve
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:11 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

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Well I could but it would make me nautious.

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I think you mean "nautiated."

p.s. This is the opposite of a leak. Don't ask me what that is though!
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Texas Pete Texas Pete is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

I think generally that is a good play.
As you can see, you can get called by a hand that you
dominate. Also, there is a chance you can fold smaller pairs who otherwise might have pushed a min raise.
Min raising is not too appetizing because you really don't want to lay it down if you're re-raised. Just calling.. well.. I don't know. I think if you just call you're asking for a push, and you leave yourself open to a miracle flop for BB (which he got anyway).
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

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p.s. This is the opposite of a leak. Don't ask me what that is though!

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A cork? A plug?
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

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Just calling.. well.. I don't know.

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I think calling can be a good play if there's a very agressive player behind you who is nonetheless tight when facing a raise. Against a player like that, you probably want to play AQ for all your chips -- and he'll be glad to give you the opportunity.
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:24 PM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

Well, i think the BB called you down with the mindset that he likely had the best hand. For what thats worth. 1000 over his 200 blind.. He stands to lose 5x what he had to.

I think whats important is if you could remember the situation, and the 5 hands before it. Had you been stealing/pushing preflop recently? Has chipleader been aggressive? etc.

The thing with AQ, its going to be the best hand most of the time. 4 handed especially. You dont mind calls. Double more than bustout.

The money went in when you had way the best of it. WOuld you prefer winning T300 blinds, or getting doubled by a dominated hand?
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

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p.s. This is the opposite of a leak. Don't ask me what that is though!

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My first thought was "a suck", but that doesn't really work...

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Old 01-21-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Bubble Play - is this a leak?

I GOT IT!!! The opposite of a leak is a dump [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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