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13 | 18.84% |
| FOLD (and then have yet another restless night of sleep) |
  
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56 | 81.16% |
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#52
10-26-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
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In case you missed it, or choose to ignore my second response... "I should also say that if the villian is aggressive enough to bet an 8 on the flop, they most likely won't turn into a passive slow player when I show strength. This is why I don't put the villian on an 8 after that hypothetical situation. " [/ QUOTE ] I didnt miss it... I just disagree. I think someone with an 8 will often play it exactly that way. By betting his 8 and then going passive he gets you to think exactly what he wants you to think. You arent the only person that knows about 2nd level thinking. Good and bad players both like to be sneaky at times. Bad players more often then good at the 33s. [ QUOTE ] I believe I have agreed with many things people have said. I'm just playing the devils advocate to provoke thought [/ QUOTE ] Thats my job 
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#53
10-26-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
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Also, in your situation the villian bet 200. He didn't check to me. [/ QUOTE ] no in my situation he bets 60 then you pop him back to 200 (140 to him) He calls your raise then checks the turn. Really his turn action isnt important. The moment he calls your flop raise you should go into submission and caution.
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#55
10-26-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
Haven't read any of the posts above.
I would raise preflop 3x the blind, I like KQs, that being said, if villian calls me and checks, I either check 50% or bet 50%, if the villian bets into me, I would pop a small re-raise, laying it down to another reraise or a check call on turn
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#56
10-26-2005, 03:29 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
This specific hand (early, no read, etc.) I would always fold.
The same situation but with a read on villian as aggressive I can see calling hoping to either hit a K or Q on the turn, or stealing on the turn if villian shows any sign of weakness. I would not often re-raise villians flop raise. I think it's cheaper and easier to call and try to steal on the turn.
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#57
10-26-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
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[ QUOTE ] Also, in your situation the villian bet 200. He didn't check to me. [/ QUOTE ] no in my situation he bets 60 then you pop him back to 200 (140 to him) He calls your raise then checks the turn. Really his turn action isnt important. The moment he calls your flop raise you should go into submission and caution. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I didn't see the first part of your post. I read the "what if he bets 200 instead". If he checked to me, I'd either value bet or check.
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#58
10-26-2005, 03:44 PM
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Re: $33 Poll: 8 Left; 15/30 Blinds
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You're trying to be fancy. You do not need to be fancy. [/ QUOTE ] I just had a work meeting where I learned about electronic time cards. In other words, I had time to think about this hand/situation. I think for this specific hand (given the blinds, no reads, buyin level), this is probably FPS. I'm not saying the bettor may have an 8, because I don't think they do, but this is a tough spot to buy a pot without a read. I do, however, still think it's important to recognize situations like this where the villian is trying to represent a hand they don't have. When these spots are found, your hand becomes less important than whether or not they'll fold if you show strength. more to come...i have another work meeting...
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