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Old 12-21-2005, 09:38 PM
Guyon Guyon is offline
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Default Any way to play this hand differently?

Looking for a good roast here...

7 Card Stud High ($3/$6), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $1 (converter)

Seat 2: $147
Seat 3: $183.50
Seat 4: $285
Hero: $216
Seat 7: $172
Seat 8: $133

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.33 SB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.67 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (7.67 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises

River - (11.67 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (13.67 BB)

Results: IN WHITE
Main Pot: $79 | Rake: $3
<font color="white">
Hero: [ 4d Kd Kh Qd Tc 3c 7h ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kh,Qd,Tc,7h ]

Seat 7: [ Ts Qh Qs 5c 6s Th 4s ] [ two pairs, queens and tens -- Qh,Qs,Ts,Th,6s ] </font>
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:43 PM
lstream lstream is offline
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

I would re-raise him on third, and either bet or check raise him on fourth.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

I think you should fold 7th - other then that I like it.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:00 PM
TheSalche TheSalche is offline
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

im wondering what check raising 5th accomplishes here? he isn't getting away from his hand and you haven't improved yours

and im wondering why villain raised with a possible weaker two pair when you are representing two pair
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

Additional notes:
1) I chide myself for not raising 3rd, esp. b/c villian is laggish.
2) I knew I was most likely beat on 7th.
3) The 5th street raise was partly for information, partly because I felt as though I had the best hand at that point.
4) When I was raised on 6th, I feared 2 pair, which is why I should have folded on 7th, but the bettor had such a range of betting hands that I could not fold in my mind.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

You have little reason to think you are not ahead on 5th hence the check raise. The hand is simpler if you just 3 bet 3rd but that defines your hand too much and a check raise on 4th will have the same results but you are losing a fraction of a bet by doing it on a smaller street.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:12 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

Get a raise in earlier than 5th...this isn't hold 'em. Also, you've represented a strong hand - it's doubtful your opponent is raising with a hand on 6th that can't beat two kings, esp. given his ragged board. I muck on 7th w/o improvement.

Jeff
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:53 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

I would tend to three-bet third and lead out on fourth, but I think your line is OK. I think the only thing I do different is to fold the river, unless the other guy is a real nut job.
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

Pretty well the same comments as the others except that I'd add that though you obviously suspect QQTT, against some players I think it's OK to call the river. Against others, it is a definite fold. And because of your read of the player, it may very well have been the right call.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:13 AM
MichaelOar MichaelOar is offline
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Default Re: Any way to play this hand differently?

Why are we folding on the end here? Sure, you're beat 90% of the time (though something like (Ts 6s)Qs was possible for the enemy), but the pot is big and a call offers you some bluff protection for later. I'm going to err on the side of calling, with an occasional fold if I really know my opponent.

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