Can I fold here ? - Page 3

GrunchCan · #21 08-01-2005, 06:14 PM

Results don't matter. I stand by my line.

hizo1 · #22 08-01-2005, 06:14 PM

I now see that if you KNOW you're behind then you should probably fold on the turn. thanks for the help

POKhER · #23 08-01-2005, 06:14 PM

Raise the turn,
River... I say bet.. but a check raise to straight would suck! A/9 hmmm

Check/call inducebluff maybe and its a crying call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
POKhER

@bsolute_luck · #24 08-01-2005, 06:15 PM

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is it wrong that i find sweet relief that Grunch agrees with me [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

GrunchCan · #25 08-01-2005, 06:16 PM

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Against which hands we win 1 out of 8 times?

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Nevermind. I edited my post.

GrunchCan · #26 08-01-2005, 06:17 PM

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is it wrong that i find sweet relief that Grunch agrees with me [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Ah but my river line was bad.

@bsolute_luck · #27 08-01-2005, 06:17 PM

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is it wrong that i find sweet relief that Grunch agrees with me [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Ah but my river line was bad.

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yeah, i figured we were beat too, but i made the crying call.

hizo1 · #28 08-01-2005, 06:18 PM

Grunch why is calling the turn correct if we're only drawing to ~6 outs to most three-betting preflop hands? Is it because I have monsters under the bed syndrome and we may still be ahead? thanks

GrunchCan · #29 08-01-2005, 06:19 PM

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Why would I raise the turn? I'm behind, and know it, so it's not for value, and I can't see him folding for one more bet here either!
I think even calling is marginal as spiking the straight could well only give me half the pot

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why would you call the turn if you ARE behind. and why the river call when its VERY VERY VERY VERY likely he/she's got an A.

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Becasue we could be drawing live. Pot odds tell you if you should continue when you're drawing.

GrunchCan · #30 08-01-2005, 06:21 PM

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Grunch why is calling the turn correct if we're only drawing to ~6 outs to most three-betting preflop hands? Is it because I have monsters under the bed syndrome and we may still be ahead? thanks

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Well, I think the hand is worth slightly more than 6 outs. The opponent doesn't have a flush draw every time. In fact, he doesn't hanve the flush more often than he does, I'd say.

But even assuming that your 6 outs is correct, I think calling is still probably +EV, becasue we can almost always pull 2 bets out of him on the river when we hit. Very often, we can get more. Implied odds.