It's a big flop. - Page 2

ArturiusX · #11 09-26-2005, 03:34 AM

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Call it down. We want a showdown.

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What's your plan if UTG checkraises the field on the flop or turn? I would give serious consideration to folding.

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Firstly, we're never folding a flop check-raise.

On the turn, I might do it if I had a read.

Hojglad · #12 09-26-2005, 03:35 AM

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Call it down. We want a showdown.

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What's your plan if UTG checkraises the field on the flop or turn? I would give serious consideration to folding.

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Firstly, we're never folding a flop check-raise.

On the turn, I might do it if I had a read.

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Ya, I was referencing the turn. I don't think we will be getting odds to draw to our set if he CRs the field on the turn (depending on what happens in between him and MP2).

Out of curiosity, what hand range do you assign to UTG? I am pretty sure he has to have AA, KK, or QQ right here, with QQ being the most probable.

adsman · #13 09-26-2005, 03:37 AM

Here's the whole hand.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (25 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 29.50 BB

Hojglad · #14 09-26-2005, 03:38 AM

You turn goot. Followed my plan for the turn to a T. Nice pot. I don't suppose you would mind posting what each player had?

adsman · #15 09-26-2005, 03:46 AM

The sb had 99 and the flop better had A3o. Like I said, a good table. It's a pity he slowplayed the turn though.

Hojglad · #16 09-26-2005, 03:49 AM

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The sb had 99 and the flop better had A3o. Like I said, a good table. It's a pity he slowplayed the turn though.

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You sir, are a luckbox.

adsman · #17 09-26-2005, 03:53 AM

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The sb had 99 and the flop better had A3o. Like I said, a good table. It's a pity he slowplayed the turn though.

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You sir, are a luckbox.

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I work hard at it. I sacrifice a chicken before every playing session. I used to do kittens but Wookie took that over.

#18 09-26-2005, 03:54 AM

Why didn't SB cap the river with his AA.

Scrap that. 99, bad slowplay. You deserved it.[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Hojglad · #19 09-26-2005, 04:02 AM

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Why didn't SB cap the river with his AA.

Scrap that. 99, bad slowplay. You deserved it.[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I was going to write a post that basically amounted to "WTF?" when I read what you wrote, but I figured I'd let it slide.

Hojglad · #20 09-26-2005, 04:09 AM

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The sb had 99 and the flop better had A3o. Like I said, a good table. It's a pity he slowplayed the turn though.

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You sir, are a luckbox.

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I work hard at it. I sacrifice a chicken before every playing session. I used to do kittens but Wookie took that over.

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In all seriousness, I hope you see what I'm saying when I assert that a flop raise does not increase your chances to win this pot if you are already behind. This is a call > raise >>>>> fold situation on the flop.