I just got owned

JimmyJazz1 · #1 10-27-2005, 06:59 PM

How should I have played it differently? Villian is 29/13/2.7 over 208 hands. I dont think I can fold the turn, but after he second c/r, folding the river would have been a good idea.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

TomBrooks · #2 10-27-2005, 07:12 PM

I think you can fold that, even getting 10:1, unless Villian is a known river bluff raiser.

And if you don't want to fold to a raise there, I'd like check/calling better.

Roy6 · #3 10-27-2005, 07:13 PM

I check through river

brazilio · #4 10-27-2005, 07:24 PM

Betting the river sucks, and calling the second checkraise sucks even harder. Think you knew that though. Turn is meh, an AA board isn't a 44Tx board with KK.

luckyharr · #5 10-27-2005, 07:28 PM

I don't think there's any value in your river bet. If he was bluffing the turn, he's not paying off.

mute · #6 10-27-2005, 07:31 PM

I would fold the turn against this guy. Since you didn't, I would check through on the river.

obsidian · #7 10-27-2005, 07:52 PM

my god check the river.

jfresh · #8 10-27-2005, 08:00 PM

i'd check the turn through here, the flop was rainbow and drawless. and with a 2.7 aggression factor i'm not completely comfortable folding to a checkraise.

there are very few cards that could come on the river that'll hurt you. also if he's hasn't done anything completely insane before, you could raise the river if he bets out, and fold to a 3bet.

edit: maybe not for this particular river, cuz there are fewer hands that'll pay you off (smaller pairs and a 4)

deepsquat · #9 10-27-2005, 08:04 PM

Im never folding this turn but christ, betting that river sux.

surfdoc · #10 10-27-2005, 08:43 PM

Pretty uncommon for a guy like this with reasonable numbers to peel on the flop with a hand like KQ where he has a good 6 outer. Therefore, I think a turn check is best and call the river bluff he fires. Bet the river if he checks again.