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Old 12-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Zim Zim is offline
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Default Times have changed, thanks Rud and friends ...

In particular:

All in all I think 10-handed hold'em is a dying beast, atleast online.

I remember sitting at a 1/2 table (Crypto site) and we were all being talkative for some reason. Half the table had PT, and most had read Skalansky or Miller. Before you know it, we were all talking about win rates and standard deviation, prompting one to comment:

"This has to be the most skilled, 1/2 table in existence"

I have no doubt a good player can still profit in the full table, low-limit games. Nonetheless, it seems pointless if the fish have moved.

I think if you want to make money at poker, you have to keep abreast of the current trends and playing environments. From what I've read, so far, I think the new breed of successful poker player, and one you'll likely be playing against is ...

Multi-tabling, 6-max, PT, HUDs, seeking out fish in the lower limits.

This is vastly different environment than poker books that start with the premise you'll be sitting down at a full table with people who will play any two cards.

Thanks Rud, I'll check out King Yao's (love the name) book.

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Zim
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Times have changed, thanks Rud and friends ...

zim, this is a very good thread.

made me think a little about the starting charts.. i do realize that good poker is a craft, but i would hazard that tons of people who think they've graduated from the charts would be shocked if they actually looked at one for a typical slightly loose game.

you are totally correct about the new environment where it seems like it is people multi-tabling with pokertracker looking for fish (basically like that sonar that recreational fish boats have).

you might want to try obscure poker sites (some fraud and bankruptcy risk) that don't allow pokertracker (or just too small for pokertracker to care about).

i understand there are lots of fish at sports betting site and/or those that don't work with pokertracker.

at the risk of offending an entire continent, i find europeans are more fun to play against. wonder if the twoplustwo books, and great books from other publishers, have been translated into all of the major european languages (i doubt it, but not sure).
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Times have changed, thanks Rud and friends ...

Europeans ... heh ... a different kind of people

Have you noted, that fixed limit games are not spread at European sites ?? (or rather, they are spread, but the tables are empty, even Stud is only played potlimit only)

I guess Europeans are easily bored or something ;-)
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