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Old 08-01-2005, 02:44 AM
aggie aggie is offline
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Default 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Player A is a solid LAG...Player B is a solid TAG

Donkey (4k) opens UTG for 25 with AQo. Player A (5k) makes it 85 from UTG+2 with AcAs. Player B (10k) calls from the cutoff with 10h10c.

Flop Qd-Jd-10s

Donkey bets $100, player A raises to $350, player B calls, and donkey folds.

Turn 7c (Qd-Jd-10s)

check, check

river 7s (7c-Qd-Jd-10s)

player A bets $600. Player B calls.

What do you think of both Player A and B's play of this hand?
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Old 08-01-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Turn check is not good i think. I dont think villain with set of tens feels that comfortable on such a board. I lead pot on turn.
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Old 08-01-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Can't believe A checks this turn.
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Old 08-01-2005, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Why not....Is that really bad?
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Old 08-01-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

I think not raising the river is ridiculous.
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Old 08-01-2005, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

What is wrong with checking the turn? I think betting it would be atrocious for play A. The guy in the cutoff called 85 cold preflop, and then $350 on the flop, what range of hands do you put him on at this time? I believe player A should have check folded the river, unless villain is a complete donkey.
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Old 08-01-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

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I think not raising the river is ridiculous.

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Old 08-01-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

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I think not raising the river is ridiculous.

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Old 08-01-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Because B could have anything, too often I don't bet this turn and then get stuffed on the river when they get there, or I just don't know, and end up calling. You bet the turn you know exactly what's up. Just my thoughts... He could have a set, the nuts, a diamond draw due to his loose nature...gotta bet I think... I used to be a notorious turn checker....
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Old 08-01-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 5-5 w deepstacks...opinions needed.

Player B is not loose...He is a TAG which was a major factor in my checking. when he coldcalled my raise on the flop i put him on AK and i was prepared to fold to a turn bet.

Okay the cats outta the bag....i'm player A....I was seriously suprised by player B's passive line but i think it got the max outta me. I asked him why he did not raise the river and he told me because he figured i would fold any hand he could beat (except of course i would not have folded AK)....he was right.
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