KK - wtf do i do?

PayTheSnucka · #1 03-21-2005, 11:59 PM

This is obviously a leak but I'm still not sure how I so\hould have played this.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (15 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

ErrantNight · #2 03-22-2005, 12:00 AM

what is obviously a leak?

FishHooks · #3 03-22-2005, 12:00 AM

raise the turn

NAU_Player · #4 03-22-2005, 12:02 AM

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raise the turn

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Stuey · #5 03-22-2005, 12:02 AM

I raise the turn.

I lose to trips or a str8.

I can deal with it.

I am wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

PayTheSnucka · #6 03-22-2005, 12:09 AM

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what is obviously a leak?

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After the turn I felt as though I had no chance of winning the hand, yet I kept on calling because the pot was so big. It was probably the right play but it felt really wrong.

ErrantNight · #7 03-22-2005, 12:25 AM

do you typically have a hard time when someone bets a scare card into you on the turn after they just smooth called your raise?

i think the fact that it was done here with such a large field (thus making a stop 'n' go very appealing) makes a turn call (as opposed to raise) ok... and although the river check smells like a fish getting scared by monsters under the bed, you gotta make a value bet here. i think you could fold to a check raise.

wax311 · #8 03-22-2005, 12:27 AM

I'd raise the turn and maybe check through on the river.

I'm like 90% sure BB doesn't have the straight on the turn. He wouldn't bet the flop with only a gutshot. The only hands he's bet the flop with and hit the straight are 87 and maybe 67. In fact, I'm fairly certain nobody has the straight. Nobody's shown any aggression accept for BB - if anyone had the straight, they'd probably raise BBs turn bet. With this info, I'd raise the turn.

With so many players I'd probably check-though the river. Someone could be check-raising trip 8s here, and it's slightly possible that someone's majorly slowplaying their straight.

KingDan · #9 03-22-2005, 12:58 AM

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you gotta make a value bet here. i think you could fold to a check raise.

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No way I fold to a checkraise. At this level, I would see 'desperation checkraises' with very weak hands trying to salvage something. His kings have to been good enough to make that call profitable, in my opinion.

KaiShin · #10 03-22-2005, 01:05 AM

This is obviously not a leak. Although I would have raised the turn.

If your turn raise is 3-bet, then you can check-call the river. Don't fold this though.