KK: lots of action, monotone flop

[gopnik]

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You should be thrown in the hoosegow for checking through that turn!

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I kind of agree. I pretty much had no read on the guy and was affraid of another c/r on the turn.

So he showed AK with the Ace of clubs then?

[@bsolute_luck]

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3-bet the flop. Bet the turn.

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i do this all day.

[HouseCalls]

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3-bet the flop. Bet the turn.

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i do this all day.

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I understand this play in terms of counteracting an attempted free card play here but I have a question for those of you who do this a lot. We can make the free card expensive by doing this but (given all the raising before we 3 bet the flop) the player on the draw will still be getting odds to stick with his draw all the way to the river. Since we can't put him in a position to "make a mistake" are we doing this to build the pot for ourselves if the K's hold up? If not should we skip the re-raise/ lead out play once the pot gets this big??

[gopnik]

he had AA[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and both us should be banned from playing poker for checking the turn (especially him)

[gopnik]

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3-bet the flop. Bet the turn.

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i do this all day.

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would you do it HU? I think more often than not we are behind the villain. (we are behind AA [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], QQ, and A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K has 11 outs against us)

[MN_Mime]

WTF?

Where in the world did I suggest that you check the turn?!

[MN_Mime]

Well, that's unfortunate but the play is still correct given that you did not have the read at the time.

It's results-oriented to look back at it as a mistake.

[MN_Mime]

Against a sane opponent, there are 9 hands of which you're afraid (6 give you live redraws) and 21 hands against which you're in great shape.

Unless he shows you the AAc, you've got to 3-bet this for value.