"Culture of Life"

MtSmalls · #1 12-15-2005, 02:00 PM

Rich, white, brain dead woman in Florida = Congressional intervention, and religious fundamentalists so concerned about her right to live that it makes the news every night for three weeks.

Poor, black African Immigrant in Texas, who is lucid and conscious, who knows the end has come, but wants to live until she can see her Mother one more time (6 weeks? 10 weeks?) gets the plug pulled against her wishes and the wishes of her family. Why? Cause no one can pay.

WHERE WAS THE "CULTURE OF LIFE CROWD"???

Point 2: Why was this bill ever signed in TX, by Gov Bush, if he is part of the "Culture of Life", every life is sacred sect??

#2 12-15-2005, 02:07 PM

One of the best points I ever heard was when someone asked "what companies are the two biggest buildings in Boston named after" The Met Life and the Manu-Mutual buildings...two health insurance companies. Health insurance companies have much more power in the US than they ought to.

Nationalized health care in Canada put them out of business, thats why the corporate media in America hates the idea of nationalized health care, even though most americans support the idea.

Edit: 80 percent of americans support nationalized healthcare.

coffeecrazy1 · #3 12-15-2005, 02:45 PM

Wow. Just wow.

So many things wrong with this post.

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One of the best points I ever heard was when someone asked "what companies are the two biggest buildings in Boston named after" The Met Life and the Manu-Mutual buildings...two health insurance companies. Health insurance companies have much more power in the US than they ought to.

[/ QUOTE ] Interesting Boston factoid, for sure...but does it really mean anything? Would you be able to make your inferential leap if these two buildings were in New York? Also, how does having the biggest building equate to having too much power? Do you have facts to back this up, or are you making some convoluted "Size does matter" argument?

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Nationalized health care in Canada put them out of business, thats why the corporate media in America hates the idea of nationalized health care, even though most americans support the idea.

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1)Government regulation and oversight kills competition by its very nature. How many times must we demonstrate the inefficiency of large bureaucracies? And...how many people choose Canadian medicine over American medicine? Are healthcare conditions in Canada better than those in the USA?
2)I imagine most Americans support FREE healthcare, because Americans support almost anything that they don't have to pay for(or, at least, not directly).

But...can you offer any proof for your 80 percent statistic? I know that universal healthcare was shot down in 1993-1994 when it was introduced by Hillary Clinton...but I cannot find any statistics for popular support on this. However, I posit that if 8 out of 10 Americans supported it, it would have passed.

superleeds · #4 12-15-2005, 02:57 PM

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Are healthcare conditions in Canada better than those in the USA?

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The CIA seem to think so

lehighguy · #5 12-15-2005, 03:01 PM

Didn't we already debunk this in another post.

superleeds · #6 12-15-2005, 03:05 PM

If 'we' did, i very much doubt you had anything to do with it.

#7 12-15-2005, 03:15 PM

In 2003, the US spent 15.3 percent of its gdp on healthcare.

Health care spending accounted for 10.9 percent of the GDP in Switzerland, 10.7 percent in Germany, 9.7 percent in Canada and 9.5 percent in France, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

lehighguy · #8 12-15-2005, 03:52 PM

Your rudeness aside, I think "we" determined that infant mortality was not the end all statistic in evaluating national healthcare quality.

Cyrus · #9 12-16-2005, 03:05 AM

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The CIA seems to think so.

[/ QUOTE ] Didn't we already debunk this in another post?

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Ummm, no, that didn't happen.

Infant mortality rates demonstrate the point quite clearly -- and irrefutably.

DVaut1 · #10 12-15-2005, 03:26 PM

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Wow. Just wow.

So many things wrong with this post.

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One of the best points I ever heard was when someone asked "what companies are the two biggest buildings in Boston named after" The Met Life and the Manu-Mutual buildings...two health insurance companies. Health insurance companies have much more power in the US than they ought to.

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Interesting Boston factoid, for sure...but does it really mean anything?

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Yeah, there were so many things wrong with that post -- not the least among them that the two tallest buildings in Boston are the Hancock Tower and the Prudential. I lived in Boston area for a while, and I've never even heard of the MetLife or Manu-Mutual buildings there. I've never even heard of a 'Manu-Mutual' building anywhere.

There's a MetLife building in NYC, and it's pretty tall -- but it's nowhere near the tallest, as far as I know.