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Old 12-08-2005, 12:21 AM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Okay, Ed, I raised.

Okay, Ed, I raised.

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My previous stats:

1/2 40,319 hands

VP$IP 18.09
W$WSF 32.17
WSD 31.22
W$SD 50.64
PFR 7.70
Aggression 2.95/2.65/2.16
Amount won ($473.13) -237 BB
BB/100 (0.59)

My stats since you told me I needed to get my PFR up to double digits (11/28):

1/2 7,350 hands

VP$IP 17.48
W$WSF 30.68
WSD 30.94
W$SD 52.32
PFR 9.39
Aggression 3.49/2.44/1.89
Amount won ($311.00) -156 BB
BB/100 (2.12)

And for the OP, who never has insane downswings, my latest session:

1/2 142 hands
VP$IP 16.90
W$WSF 13.79
WSD 31.03
W$SD 11.11
PFR 8.45
Aggression 2.33/1.60/1.00
Amount won ($96.75) -48 BB
BB/100 (34.07)

I could have played another thousand hands to try and get back close to even for the day, but after losing two buy-ins in less than an hour, I decided to quit.

Now what?
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

I would think that you either are still on a downswing, are/were on tilt, or play post flop poorly. Besides, 7,350 hands isn't that much. It is possible to go on an extended downswing due to bad luck. Don't be so results oriented; play one hand at a time and try to make the best decision.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

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I would think that you either are still on a downswing, are/were on tilt, or play post flop poorly. Besides, 7,350 hands isn't that much

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Old 12-08-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

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VP$IP 18.09
W$WSF 32.17
WSD 31.22
W$SD 50.64
PFR 7.70
Aggression 2.95/2.65/2.16


VP$IP 17.48
W$WSF 30.68
WSD 30.94
W$SD 52.32
PFR 9.39
Aggression 3.49/2.44/1.89

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those two sets of stats, while perhaps not optimal, are capable of turning a profit.


you might just be on a downswing as of late. but considering your recent downswing and those 40K hands of losing poker, i suspect that you have a fair amount of leaks in your game. most of which aren't going to appear in the numbers you listed.


i strongly suspect you are taking a lot of bad lines postflop. i recommend you study up. i'm no poker genius either. i wish you the best.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

I don't want to be a jackass but you need to re-evaluate your postflop game if you're really worried about results. 7k hands isn't much of a sample. Ed was dead on in his last post but there's a good chance you're making some simple and correctable postflop errors as well. Hire a coach, pick up a few more books, or just start reading and posting voraciously for a while. Get a friend who plays better than you to sweat your play while you 1-table or 2-table for a while.

And finally, don't worry about the short run so much. 7k hands isn't much of a sample.

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Old 12-08-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

That is sick for any number of hands.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

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Okay, Ed, I raised.

Now what?

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I understand you are frustrated, but your first step should be to understand that this frustration isn't helping you at progress. It's hindering you.

You are running bad. Running bad can go on for very long periods of hands. Given the level of frustration you are showing here, I also suspect that you have a tilting problem while you play. And I further suspect that your postflop game could use some work.

I think you're probably a winning player (on average) right now. I think the two areas you should focus on next are tilting and postflop play.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:50 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

Raising preflop 2% more often shouldn't make that big of a difference. Maybe a few tenths of a BB/100. Either way at 1/2 you should be way in the black with either set of stats. You may be running bad, but more likely you play bad postflop.
The best way to fix that is to post hands and read all the good posts in the forums. Go through SS, especially the archives, go through the mid/high archives, and go all the way through and read the most popular posts/posts by noted posters(granted like 75% of these ended up popular due to flaming/trolls) and maybe read the SH forums as well. Also read SSH, ToP, HPFAP, probably have read all these I'm sure but read them again and spend some time thinking away from the table about common postflop situations.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

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W$WSF 30.68
WSD 30.94
W$SD 52.32


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That would definitely be running bad. Not to say you aren't making postflop mistakes, but they'd have to be huge to even skew the results with numbers like that.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: Okay, Ed, I raised.

I dont know much about PT stats, however W$WSF and WSD and W$SD for me are:

33.6 W$WSF
32.8 WTSD
57.7 W$SD

Over 3000 hands sure, but whats considered "running good" or "average" interms of these figures?
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