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Old 07-20-2005, 08:47 PM
Raiter Raiter is offline
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Default Wannabe pros and ESPN

I hate for my first post to be a negative one but this sudden boom in poker facination over the last 2 years is great but it has unleashed a whole new crop of wannabe pros who think that if they watch ESPN, buy Supersystem, and know all of the key lines from Rounders, and you are instantly a pro. So being as I have been playing for the last 8 years and have been in the business for the last 6 years I want to offer a checklist for players so you can know for yourself if you are one of these wannabe dorks who will end up living at your moms house rekindling all your bad beat stories to people in the party poker play money room. So here we go.

You are most likely a wannabe dork if you ever...

-Wore your sunglasses/mp3 player/all in WPT shirt at the 2/4 through 6/12 table.

-Can play both parts of Mike Mcdermit and KGB from Rounders verbatum and have used them at your table.

-You use a board name other then your real first name and last initial. (example: Kid Poker, Rocket Fuel, KGB, Mike McD, Texas Dolly, etc.)

-Youve ever muttered the line "I knew you had that."

-You Dont Tip the dealers.

-Youve said "I was Suited." or "I Knew you had Aces."

-Youve made the claim that you cant win at your local cardroom because you are a "no limit player".

-You call time or take longer then 10 seconds to make a decision at blue chip poker.

-You have ever stared anyone down preflop looking for a tell after they have called the 2 dollar bet.

-You say at anytime to anyone that will listen at your table that you are a pro and everyone else is stupid.

-You ever say the words "I had/have pot odds."

-You bring your girlfriend in to the card room and have her sit behind you for hours as you play your blue chip game trying to impress her as shes falling behind as you promise just 1 more round.

I hope this has been enlighting for you all and if you qualify as a wannabe pro, then dont quit playing but just shut up and learn this game. Remember the best players dont care what people think of them or their image.



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Old 07-21-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

Raiter,
That was pretty funny.
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Old 07-21-2005, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

u sound bitter. I believe you should quit your job.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

"in the poker game of life u r the rake"
just kiddin man, u gotta luv guys who come to casinos to impress the table and leave their allowance on the felt.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

I dont play that much live poker but....

You should embrace these guys. Neon flashing signs that say I'm a fish are good in my opinion.

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-You bring your girlfriend in to the card room and have her sit behind you for hours as you play your blue chip game trying to impress her as shes falling behind as you promise just 1 more round.


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I always find this hilarious at Canterbury. The last time I was there, a guy at my table got ID'd for an alcohol purchase and had an out of state license. The waitress asks him, oh what are you doing around here. Ridiculously hott gf behind him pipes up, "He's visiting me".

The type of guy that would spend part of his time visiting his gf with her sitting behind him at a poker table really has his values screwed up.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

I think you have pretty well nailed it, sir.

Then again, these people stand in stark contrast to the other stereotypical examples of the top of humanity's food chain that you normally encounter in a B&M poker room?
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

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I dont play that much live poker but....

You should embrace these guys. Neon flashing signs that say I'm a fish are good in my opinion.

[ QUOTE ]

-You bring your girlfriend in to the card room and have her sit behind you for hours as you play your blue chip game trying to impress her as shes falling behind as you promise just 1 more round.


[/ QUOTE ]

I always find this hilarious at Canterbury. The last time I was there, a guy at my table got ID'd for an alcohol purchase and had an out of state license. The waitress asks him, oh what are you doing around here. Ridiculously hott gf behind him pipes up, "He's visiting me".

The type of guy that would spend part of his time visiting his gf with her sitting behind him at a poker table really has his values screwed up.

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And you didn't chat HER up either, did ya?
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:58 AM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

You do sound pretty bitter to be honest. Let people have their damn fun. That said, I am a pro and I have done the following things on your list.

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You are most likely a wannabe dork if you ever...

-Wore your sunglasses/mp3 player/all in WPT shirt at the 2/4 through 6/12 table.

-You use a board name other then your real first name and last initial. (example: Kid Poker, Rocket Fuel, KGB, Mike McD, Texas Dolly, etc.)

-Youve ever muttered the line "I knew you had that."

-You Dont Tip the dealers (depends here, all the time or on the times they really don't deserve it?).

-Youve said "I was Suited." or "I Knew you had Aces."

-You call time or take longer then 10 seconds to make a decision at blue chip poker.

-You ever say the words "I had/have pot odds."

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I'll explain any of them if you care.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:59 AM
wegs the wegs wegs the wegs is offline
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-Youve made the claim that you cant win at your local cardroom because you are a "no limit player".

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This is the only one that I could be guilty of. But I am a no limit player. But I have only played No Limit at the card room. But I have won. But I do not play limit... at all. If I did I'm sure I would suck at it, which is why I don't play it. I just don't get limit poker.

Anyways, in your opinion would I be guilty of this one? I'm a bit concerned cuz its the only one I'm even close to crossing the line in.
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Old 07-21-2005, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Wannabe pros and ESPN

I don't get the whole "I don't understand limit/no limit" argument. If you really are as good at one as you say you are, you really shouldn't have a hard time adjusting to the other. I almost never play No Limit, but I feel comfortable enough with my limit game up to $40/80 that I really have never had a problem holding my own up to $5/10 NL. I'm sure I'm not playing optimal NL poker as I've never studied the game in as much depth as I have limit, but I'm sure I'm a winner in those games I have played.

I've also never studied Omaha, O/8, Stud or Stud/8, but I get the basic principles enough to be able to construct basic playing styles that are winning.

Poker games are all very similiar in nature that while you may not be an expert at all forms, you should be able to hold your own against low to mid limit players.
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