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Old 09-27-2005, 10:08 PM
bengele bengele is offline
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Default 1/2 JJ overpair

Button is LAG pre flop but slows down after the flop. Nothing unusual about UTG.

I am interest in comments on the river but comment on other streets are welcome.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 23.25 BB
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:15 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

I'd fold the turn once that card hit. I'm worried about being behind to both opponents now.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

I'd definitely fold the turn.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

I'd probably just fold on the flop. What exactly was going through your head when you called the river 3-bet? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

Between these two what do you beat after the turn? I think the river is spew.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:36 PM
bengele bengele is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

The hands I fugued I was behind where a larger pocket pair A9 or 99. Both players had a chance to cap pre-flop and didn't. I didn't think UTG would open raise with A9 (though it was a possibility for button) and two of the nines where already out which made pocket nines unlikely. I wasn't sure what to do (which is why I posted this hand) and the pot was on the large side so I errored on the side of calling. I think my main problem with this hand is not adjusting my hand ranges. What ranges do you guess put them on?
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:41 PM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

Isn't it fairly common for people to disguise their AA/KK preflop with a called 3-bet instead of a cap?

UTG is the scarey one here. You reraised him 2x and he said "I don't care". I can't see anything other than QQ-AA for him.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:10 PM
PJM1206 PJM1206 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 JJ overpair

I think with all that action there is at least a set possibly full house and or maybe quad 9s. Pre-flop as it relates to the board is consistant with quad 9s. UTG would raise with pr of 9s. The button may have had 3s or 6s but his pre-flop bet seems a bit aggressive for that but possible. I think you should have folded on the turn.
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