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Old 12-20-2005, 01:09 PM
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PS: Dan Mezick: I'm proud I came in 53rd in a field of 1878. Not bad for 4 months of play. I'm here lurking to learn. But find it a little disconcerting that the words jerk and idiot are used to describe an exchange I had.

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Why, he's right.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Dan Mezick Dan Mezick is offline
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Default Re: Donkeyfied AA hand

Certainly your finish is strong (top 3%) and I'd be very pleased with it also. My use of the sharp words were to describe the opponent types that will call your small preflop AA raise-- types that come with just about anything.

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You invite this KJ ("off" for sure) jerk into the pot, why? What's the OBJECTIVE of your 1200 raise? What's your plan?? Apparently, you want to let idiots in cheap. This you accomplish with ease.

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The way I may play AA here is simply my opinion of the best way to deal with the poker situation as described.

Lets get back to the hand itself.

You can lose very big pots with AA and KK. It has to do with being unable to get away. Tough players can play these hands more creatively because they are 100% capable of making that AA or KK laydown. I know you are new by the way this was played and so I advise to you the straightforward approach.

My opinion of the small raise remains the same-- it is far too small. I see what you try to accomplish-- you want to build a pot. Your ideal scenario is to get one caller. Here you did. In my view you got very lucky more players did not come in light of your very small raise.

My own view of the hand is to push with it here and to not get too greedy with it. I'm not trying to build a pot-- I want to take the blinds down. They represent a large enough percentage of my stack to be nutritious "as is".

A decent alternative would be to bet $3500 or so at the pot to thin the field and still hope for one weak caller who fails to suck out.

Try experimenting with many different ways to play specific hands and tourney scenarios. It can make you much more confident and potentially menacing (and thereby much more effective) at the table.

Good luck to you.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:52 PM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: Donkeyfied AA hand

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PS: Dan Mezick: I'm proud I came in 53rd in a field of 1878. Not bad for 4 months of play. I'm here lurking to learn. But find it a little disconcerting that the words jerk and idiot are used to describe an exchange I had.

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Why, he's right.

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why the [censored] would calling a raise with KJ make someone a "jerk"? it might make him a poor poker player, it might make him a great poker player, but it sure as [censored] doesnt say anything about his personality.


also, i would comment on the hand, but the OP is so [censored] up that i don't feel like trying to piece it together. maybe use a hand history next time. or, like durron said, post this in BBV.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:58 PM
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Why reraise all in? Won't that mostly get called only when you're beat?

Not knowing I'm beat at this point, I'm not trying to force a fold from a worse hand. I'm trying to extract value.

The small bet by the BB looks like a feeler/blocking bet, so I'd make a reraise about 3-4k on this flop. Then another bet of the same amount on the Turn.

I tend to chicken out on the River, but a value bet there might be in order also.

This line might've ended up costing me my whole stack in this case, but seems like it would make more off of hands like KQ, K10, or Q10 that would be inclined to stick around for a bet but not an all in.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Donkeyfied AA hand

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The small bet by the BB looks like a feeler/blocking bet, so I'd make a reraise about 3-4k on this flop. Then another bet of the same amount on the Turn.


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Hero 15000
Villan 18000

So after my 3x raise I will have 12600. then you suggest a 3-4k reraise leaving me with 8-9k and almost 1/2 my stack in the pot. Since I'm pot committing myself what do you suggest I do when I'm reraised allin ? fold? can't do it? The OP is about whether to play a scary board hard or not.

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