77 River bet-fold.

Jeff W · #1 11-01-2005, 02:19 AM

Button: 28/8/1 over 160 hands.

Party Poker 20/40 (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

drbk2 · #2 11-01-2005, 02:31 AM

i dont get it, are you doing one of those bet-the-river-because-im-calling-anyway bets? I muck the turn, looks like button either has an overpair or set.

ihardlyknowher · #3 11-01-2005, 03:14 AM

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Button: 28/8/1 over 160 hands.

Party Poker 20/40 (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

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I don't understand the river bet. I don't see villain calling with anything you beat, and I don't think he is folding a pair of 8s or better.

Jeff W · #4 11-01-2005, 03:25 AM

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I don't understand the river bet. I don't see villain calling with anything you beat, and I don't think he is folding a pair of 8s or better.

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Okay, what is your river line?

roy_miami · #5 11-01-2005, 03:32 AM

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I don't understand the river bet. I don't see villain calling with anything you beat, and I don't think he is folding a pair of 8s or better.

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Okay, what is your river line?

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If its not check-call then he should have folded the turn...

Jeff W · #6 11-01-2005, 03:39 AM

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If its not check-call then he should have folded the turn...

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I think the pot is too big to fold a gutshot+set outs+even a small chance he's raising for a free showdown on the turn.

ihardlyknowher · #7 11-01-2005, 03:52 AM

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I don't understand the river bet. I don't see villain calling with anything you beat, and I don't think he is folding a pair of 8s or better.

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Okay, what is your river line?

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I would definitely check-call. But the only hand I see us beating is a busted spade draw. I don't think his turn raise is for a free showdown. I doubt his preflop raising range from MP1 hits that board, unless it's a set.

toss · #8 11-01-2005, 04:05 AM

I may play unimaginatively, but I don't see whats wrong with check/folding the river with villain's aggression factor of 1.

ihardlyknowher · #9 11-01-2005, 04:47 AM

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I may play unimaginatively, but I don't see whats wrong with check/folding the river with villain's aggression factor of 1.

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The problem is that hero only has 160 hands on villain (not nearly enough for aggression factor to converge). In the Party 20 game, this could easily be a busted flush draw 10% of the time, which he will bet if checked to.

toss · #10 11-01-2005, 05:06 AM

Thanks for answering. So checkcalling would be the best river play? If its a busted flush draw then we gain nothing from betting.

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