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11-05-2005, 03:01 AM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
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The ironic twist to this game is that it is effectively meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Look at the divisions of these teams and their remaining schedules. The Colts will be the #1 seed and the Pats will be the #4 seed in the playoffs regardless of the outcome. The Colts do not "have to" win this game. [/ QUOTE ] I very strongly disagree that this game is meaningless. The answer lies in the schedules. The Colts have had a soft schedule so far, but it gets much tougher here on out. The Pats are just finishing up the "schedule from hell" and have a much softer schedule to finish the regular season. If the Pats win, I can easily see both teams finishing around 13-3 or 12-4, with the Pats having the tiebreaker. Colts going to New England in January? *shivers* As for JackOfArcades, I think he is basically saying that Peyton can't take all of the blame for the Colts losses to New England. This firmly lands in the category of "No Sh!t, Sherlock". It's a team game. Has ANYONE done particulaly well against New England over the past few years? This is a stupid debate. The Patriots are the reigning champs and the Colts are not. 
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11-05-2005, 03:08 AM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
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The Patriots are the reigning champs and the Colts are not. [/ QUOTE ] I'll save my talk till after the game, I just wanted to make sure you know how absolutely pointless LAST year is. If you need assistance, ask teams like St. Louis and Baltimore following their championships.
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11-05-2005, 03:11 AM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
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I just wanted to make sure you know how absolutely pointless LAST year is. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, Colts fans have become very seasoned at reminding everyone of this. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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11-07-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
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[ QUOTE ] The Patriots are the reigning champs and the Colts are not. [/ QUOTE ] I'll save my talk till after the game, I just wanted to make sure you know how absolutely pointless LAST year is. If you need assistance, ask teams like St. Louis and Baltimore following their championships. [/ QUOTE ] Or check with the '03 Pats, following their championship....never mind.
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11-07-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
Dammit...all this talk about tonights game has me spittin' blood with excitement...I can barely concentrate on my 4 tables and this at the same time...
MDoranD
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11-05-2005, 03:13 AM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
I agree with your sentiments that the Patriots are better than people think given their brutal schedule in their first 6 games.
However, last week's performance was just inexcusable coming off a bye, with the whole Bruschi emotional stuff and they were lucky to beat a team that probably couldn't beat Boston College on the road. As for the Colts - it's impossible for their schedule to not get tougher after the crap they've played so far, but still - they get the Steelers & Chargers at home. What's their toughest remaining road game after this week, Jacksonville? They're a lock for homefield barring a Manning injury IMO.
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11-05-2005, 03:56 AM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
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I agree with your sentiments that the Patriots are better than people think given their brutal schedule in their first 6 games. However, last week's performance was just inexcusable coming off a bye, with the whole Bruschi emotional stuff and they were lucky to beat a team that probably couldn't beat Boston College on the road. As for the Colts - it's impossible for their schedule to not get tougher after the crap they've played so far, but still - they get the Steelers & Chargers at home. What's their toughest remaining road game after this week, Jacksonville? They're a lock for homefield barring a Manning injury IMO. [/ QUOTE ] The games that bug me for the Colts coming up are: @Jax, @Cincy, @Seattle, Pitts, SD. Those are 5 tough games against 5 tough teams. If they can win 4 of those 5, they'll easily get the home field and they will definitely deserve it. But, they could easily go 3-2 or 2-3 with those 5. Suddenly a loss to the Patriots will look pretty big. Granted, the Pats still have to run the table, but KC(4-3) is the only team with a winning record left on the Pats' schedule. If the Colts go 2-3, then the Pats can lose to KC and still pull it out. This is all very hypothetical, given that the Colts may win on Monday and virtually wrap up a first round bye. But if the Colts lose, Pandora's box is wide open.
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#8
11-06-2005, 11:24 PM
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Re: The Pats do not \"own\" Peyton Manning.
The Patriots are 4-3 and hurting pretty badly. To get homefield, they have to beat out a 6-2 Denver team that's very good, Pittsburgh at 6-2, Cincinatti at 7-2.
There's no way the Patriots are getting home-field against those teams unless they play much better over the second half of the season. They pretty much have to win every game here on out, and this team hasn't looked like a team that's capable of doing that. Oh, and I think Colts win big at Foxboro on Monday Night, too. The 2005 Patriots are a far cry from the awesome team we saw last year.
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