inability to fold?

oreogod · #1 12-11-2005, 10:35 PM

yeah. 6 worst hands for today. they are TRULY Bleh this time. For some reason I have been poker retarded the last week, I dont know what the hell is up.

Hand 1 Villian was kind of passive

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls. --------- ABLE TO CHECK/FOLD here?

Hand 2 This guy is a complete tard and plays passive/aggressive in the weirdest spots.

(3 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (2 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls. ----- SO BAD, Only playing for half the pot at best. Im playing the board and pot is so super small. Im retarded.

Hand 3 No reads. Hard for me to fold here against a double donk.

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

Hand 4 This one is kind of bad. I decided to instead get to showdown as cheap as possible. No reads

5/10 (6handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts blind of $5
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, Button calls, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Hand 5 No reads.

(5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $10.
UTG (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG folds. --- yeah this is where I got to muck.

River: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Hand 6 HAHA, yeah. Raised on a rainbow flop, I obviously put no faith in my opponents.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Hand 7

So when I do choose to fold, this happens. (this guy was pretty passive preflop, hence no cap, but I really kind of regret no capping it. Obviously.

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls $20 (All-In), Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Results in white below: 
CO has 5d Qd (high card, king).
Button has 7d 7h (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins 8.75 BB.

istewart · #2 12-11-2005, 10:46 PM

Hand 1: I'd check/fold the river. You're beat by everything; kings, fives, and flush draws, and you split with all eights except A8 which beats you.

Hand 5: Yeah the turn check/raise in this pot is a pretty strong move. I would muck.

Hand 6: I think the turn is a fold, but I would def like to see a showdown if the seven doesn't pair. I'm not sure if this logic is incorrect or not though...

Hand 7: I really dislike the flop check/raise. What's that about? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

numeri · #3 12-11-2005, 10:51 PM

Hand 1: Ya - tough.

Hand 2: You know.

Hand 3: Fine IMO.

Hand 4: I likes. AK will fold the river.

Hand 5: You know.

Hand 6: I think we can fold the turn.

Hand 7: Any reads? That seems hyper-aggressive. I'm tempted to fold the flop. Is everyone that aggressive? (This is what... 10/20?)

imported_leader · #4 12-11-2005, 10:55 PM

Hand 1: If he's passive why c/c? He's not checking though a K. He's not bluff raising. He might check there a smaller 8 or 77,66,44,33. If I'm checking here, I'm folding, but I prefer bet/fold.
Hand 2: I'd sooner bet the turn the call the river. I don't think I'd do either, which means I should probably just fold the flop.
Hand 3: I'm not folding. I don't think it's really that close either.
Hand 4: That's fine.
Hand 5: I fold it on the turn. You're beat a lot and the pot is 6BB.
Hand 6: I'd have a hard time calling the turn without a read.
Hand 7: I'd cap PF unless my read was real strong.

PokerSparky · #5 12-11-2005, 10:56 PM

Hand 1: I kind of hate check/folding here as well, but the pot is small and your opponent is passive so yeah, fold is best IMO.

Hand 2: Yeah, fold.

Hand 3: I don't fold here either.

Hand 4: I bet the river.

Hand 5: Easy turn fold IMO.

Hand 6: Reads would help here. The turn card was bad. I probably call down in this situation as well, but I think it's probably wrong.

Hand 7: Ugh, I probably would have folded the flop.

oreogod · #6 12-11-2005, 11:09 PM

yeah hand 2 is pretty lame, probably the worst one imo. I dunno if I should even call the flop there, but this guy donks anything and everything and figured I had high card value. I agree river is a fold, Im investing 1bb to play the board and win a split pot.

Last hand, with TT, my usual move is to cap pf, bet/call or bet/fold flop...then folding turn UI. This was before I knew he had the gusto to repop 77 on this board. After that, Id have a hard time folding to this guy.