Reraising at or near the bubble

microbet · #1 08-07-2005, 01:04 PM

General thought, but situation something like

4-6 people left, you and villian around 15BB stacks, villian raises 3 BBs, you come over the top and put him allin.

$55s and below - VILLIAN NEVER FOLDS.

Just an exaggeration of an observation, not a complaint. I usually have a better hand than villian.

Scuba Chuck · #2 08-07-2005, 01:09 PM

I don't necessarily agree with your assumption. But I have gone on streaks like this. Obviously you're referring once again to the "reverse gap" principal. Anyway, I've found that this works best when it's four/five (not six) handed, and there is a shorter stack (or two) not in the hand.

Let's be careful not to make any poor decisions here without reads. If we're talking about a tight player, who rarely plays a hand, I'd easily fold, because he likely feels committed to his AJ hand.

microbet · #3 08-07-2005, 01:18 PM

Things do come in streaks. At some point I will look at a bunch of data and try and get close to figuring out what people do.

In the mean time I just thought I'd see what the communities impression was.

It seems like most players are calling with hands like A7.

bluefeet · #4 08-07-2005, 01:19 PM

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Let's be careful not to make any poor decisions here without reads

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key. my last game (5-handed, 12-15BBs), i held a push-worthy hand in the blinds (but NOT necessarily call-worthy). button made what too-often appears like a simple move on the blinds (3x). i pushed over the top ("not my blind buddy"), he flipped KK.

not the norm certainly, but a read or awareness of villian's style is critical putting your stack on the line for this well-timed move.

just to remove the atmosphere of blind-stealing/blind-protecting, i think this is better reserved for EP/MP (with the added incentive of picking up the blinds)

Scuba Chuck · #5 08-07-2005, 01:21 PM

Well, with regards to streaks, I think a lot of monkeys have learned that bigger stacks sometimes reraise them with trash, so they've "learned" if you will, to call because they are ahead.

Also, I would consider when you're playing. Saturday nights, I agree, they're calling with A7.

microbet · #6 08-07-2005, 01:36 PM

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just to remove the atmosphere of blind-stealing/blind-protecting, i think this is better reserved for EP/MP (with the added incentive of picking up the blinds)

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You are picking up the blinds (trying to) whether you are in them or not. Earlier position just increases the possibility of running into something in later position.

microbet · #7 08-07-2005, 01:38 PM

Actually, as far as bad decisions go, I'm much more concerned that I'm not reraising people enough. Like I said, I usually end up having a better hand.

bluefeet · #8 08-07-2005, 01:48 PM

well, yeeeeeeah. if you want to get technical [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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TheSalche · #9 08-07-2005, 02:48 PM

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It seems like most players are calling with hands like A7.

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isn't that a good thing if you've got a better ace in your hand?

microbet · #10 08-07-2005, 02:56 PM

Yeah, but there are a lot of situations, especially on the bubble where one might reraise someone allin with a weaker hand, assuming that they can only call you with, say QQ-AA. If that were true, then you could reraise with any two cards in many situations.