The Rantings of elROY

[andyfox]

"Ralph Nader's program is very close to Hitler's program, they are both socialists. The killing Jews thing is just a byproduct.

"For all I know Ralph Nader is in favor of excluding Jews from society."

[eLROY]

LOL, my truth-and-accuracy rating just shot up to 99.99%!

Why else would you take time out of your day to try to discredit me? Go after the messenger when you can't disprove the message? Hah

And if I didn't say something true in my most recent thread, then why would you start a separate thread, instead of taking me on in the thread in which I made my arguments?

Are you beginning to realize you're on the dumbass side of the bell curve, and have lost all heart in either making your own arguments, or challenging mine?

Why not pull up the thread you disagree with, and actually put up an argument? Or is there a glass ceiling in your brain, protecting you from facing up to the fact that your core beliefs are flawed, childish, narrow-minded, arrogant, and indefensible? Run and hide, insulate yourself from the truth!

Is it not your accuracy, but your vanity which is at stake?

Lay not that flattering unction to your soul.

[eLROY]

A while back I actually used you AndyFox, in another forum to illustrate arrogance coupled with idiocy:

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Quite simply, there are two worlds. One is a world in which the poster is a mediocre old man who makes a couple million dollars a year owning a leather factory in LA, but who can't get it up, who has no kids who like him, has a squeaky girlfriend who only likes him for the money, and has back problems. The other world is a world in which he is cool, is special, and exists in a special State of Grace. In the second world he is a somebody, and his opinions on the videotapes he watches each night with his girlfriend matter. In the Kerry world, there are cool and enlightened people, and he is one of them. In the Bush world, he is just some faceless business owner, who will hire more people if we let him keep more of his own money. And so the reasons he wants Kerry elected, is so that all the things he believes continue to mean something, and so he can cling to the idea that what he thought matters actually adds up to something. If Bush wins, and if Bush's supporters are right, then none of the things the poster believed ever mattered. And if the things he believed aren't beautiful, then he's not beautiful. A Bush victory will suck all the grand thoughts out of him, and leave nothing but 240 pounds of hairy, lukewarm meat, sitting on a couch.

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There's more, you might enjoy it...

[andyfox]

"Why else would you take time out of your day to try to discredit me?"

-With baseball over, there's only football on TV, so nothing much to do. I'm not trying to discredit you, I'm simply letting your statements do the job.

"Go after the messenger when you can't disprove the message?"

-The message is too ludicrous to require disproving. But see below.

"And if I didn't say something true in my most recent thread, then why would you start a separate thread, instead of taking me on in the thread in which I made my arguments?"

-I thought the message was so incredible as to warrant it's own thread.

"Are you beginning to realize you're on the dumbass side of the bell curve, and have lost all heart in either making your own arguments, or challenging mine?"

Have you ever thought about why you always resort to childish namecalling whenever you have a disagreement with somebody? I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, but I know the difference between Ralph Nader and Adolph Hitler.

"Why not pull up the thread you disagree with, and actually put up an argument?"

Why don't you do the the work? Go to Nader's website, and quote the points in his program that correspond with those of the Nazis. You were the one who asserted that Nader's program and that of the Nazis bear comparison. Show us, rather than make the assertion.

"is there a glass ceiling in your brain, protecting you from facing up to the fact that your core beliefs are flawed, childish, narrow-minded, arrogant, and ndefensible?"

Haven't thought about the glass ceiling concpet in brains, but again, what is it about your brain that insists on name-calling instead of rational argument?

"Is it not your accuracy, but your vanity which is at stake?"

I doubt it, I'm not a very vain person. But personality is for others to judge.

[eLROY]

Oh, and one more thing, here's a book you might like. It's called "Death by Government."

I remember that time I pointed out that Jewish people - the Grandees - were prominent in banking in New York at the turn of the century, and you almost swallowed your dentures. Just didn't fit into your politically-correct world view, eh?

What if I told you that Irish people and black people were in comedy, and Mohawk indians were in construction? Jewish banker? German brewer? Mohawk skywalker? Black basketball player?

There is no such thing as a racist revolution, but only a socialist revolution which assumes that 1) economics is a zero-sum game, and therefore 2) one human being or tribe lives at the expense of another. But it is dumbasses like you, AndyFox, who think that one person can only get rich at the expense of another person getting poor.

You use phrases like "the United States consumes 90% of the world's resources" - as if there is a finite amount of resources which it is possible to put in the denominator of a fraction. The correct statement would be "People in the US produce 90% of the world's resources."

When you realize that the human brain is magical, and that the more people you crowd on a desert island the higher their standard of living gets, there is no reason to kill anyone. But socialists are always putting "race" checkboxes on government forms, and assuming black people are too dumb to feed themselves, and meddling in things which are none of their business.

[andyfox]

I'm flattered that you considered me in posting elsehwere. But, as usual, your facts are assumed and, consequently, wrong. But I'll leave it for the others here to judge arrogance and idiocy.

[andyfox]

http://www.votenader.org/

For your research into the similarities between Hitler's program and Nader's.

[eLROY]

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The message is too ludicrous to require disproving.

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Let's see, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, they all killed millions, what do they have in common? They all had Jewish people in their population? Or they were all socialists?

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1. We demand the union of all Germany in a Greater Germany on the basis of the right of national self-determination.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations, and the revocation of the peace treaties of Versailles and Saint-Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) to feed our people and to settle our surplus population.

4. Only members of the nation may be citizens of the State. Only those of German blood, whatever be their creed, may be members of the nation. Accordingly, no Jew may be a member of the nation.

5. Non-citizens may live in Germany only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.

6. The right to vote on the State's government and legislation shall be enjoyed by the citizens of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the states or in the smaller localities, shall be held by none but citizens.

We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of filling posts merely in accordance with party considerations, and without reference to character or abilities.

7. We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens. If it should prove impossible to feed the entire population, foreign nationals (non-citizens) must be deported from the Reich.

8. All non-German immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after 2 August 1914 shall be required to leave the Reich forthwith.

9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of every citizen to perform physical or mental work. The activities of the individual must not clash with the general interest, but must proceed within the framework of the community and be for the general good.


We demand therefore:

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

The breaking of the slavery of interest

12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the nation of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

21. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.

22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary army and the foundation of a people's army.

23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press. To facilitate the creation of a German national press we demand:

(a) that all editors of, and contributors to newspapers appearing in the German language must be members of the nation;
(b) that no non-German newspapers may appear without the express permission of the State. They must not be printed in the German language;
(c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-Germans involved.
The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden. We demand the legal prosecution of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural events which violate this demand.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence not offend the moral feelings of the German race.

The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.

25. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Reich; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the Reich in the various German states.

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Heck, even Abraham Lincoln started a needless civil war costing zillions of lives, for the purpose of "uniting" the nation under a central authority. And for what? So they we can spend $10 billion fighting over some hanging chad in Florida every four years? So that police can kick in my door if I refuse to pay for stem-cell research?

[GWB]

This flame war is much better than my flame war with John Kerry (who is afraid to even post here).

[andyfox]

"You use phrases like 'the United States consumes 90% of the world's resources' - as if there is a finite amount of resources which it is possible to put in the denominator of a fraction. The correct statement would be 'People in the US produce 90% of the world's resources'."

I don't recall using that phrase. Can you cite a link?

If there is not a finite amount of resources which is not possible to put ine denominator of a fraction, how could your "correct" statement be any more possible than my alleged incorrect one?

And, BTW, thanks for elaborating on this thread title.