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Old 08-15-2005, 09:48 PM
penisclaw penisclaw is offline
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Default Upping my preflop raise %

I have about an 8k sample size of hands since I finished reading SSHE for the third time, and feeling like I fully understand all of its concepts. I make my preflop limp/raise decisions based on that spreadsheet based on the SSHE charts that some 2+2'er made a while back.

At about 5k hands I noticed my PFR% was at about 6.75%, and it fluctuates +/- .5%. I have read in the forums a few times where people posted their 10k hand summaries, with PFR% of 9 or 10%, and they got replies saying they need to up that percentage a little bit.

So I am obviously too passive preflop, and I tried making adjustments to up that percentage a bit. I started raising things like KTo, KJo, QJo, and a few others from later position with 1 or 2 callers for isolation purposes. I have also started raising pretty much anything worth limping on from late position with no callers to attempt to steal the blinds (not so easy at .5/$1). I have also done things like raise suited connectors, or anything suited worth limping on from late position with many callers, to up the pot size if I hit a draw. All these actions have brought my PFR% to about 7.5% +/-.5, But I still feel like that is too low, and I'm sure the general consensus will be the same.

How can I go about raising my PFR%? What other changes should I make to the SSHE charts to up my raise percentage closer to 10%? I also want to point out that I am able to play more hands comfortably postflop, and feel like I am pretty competent with a 3.25 BB/100 winrate over 8k hands.

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Paxosmotic Paxosmotic is offline
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Start raising hands like KJs, AJo, ATs and 99 from anywhere on the table. I believe SSHE has you calling with those hands a lot. Time to fix that. Raise first in with nearly anything you want to play from the cutoff or button. Those two things alone will bump your PFR by 2.5%. The rest comes from isolation raises with a read (don't blindly raise hands like KTo, you need a read).

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:58 PM
llamaoo7 llamaoo7 is offline
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Default Re: Upping my preflop raise %

How much time do you spend on table selection? With a nice juicy table, I find a lot more places to raise preflop and this in turned raised mine (from about 7.5% to 9) because I wasn't using much table selection before that. I also found out that it pays to grow a pair when you have a hand and throw in a 3 bet against a very loose preflop opponent as opposed to passively calling.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:02 PM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Upping my preflop raise %

How do you guys not have PFR under 9? i can't figure it out?

Pax offered good advice, in addtion, I'd like to add a few things:

1 - Isolate more. got a MP-LP open limper with a high VPIP? Raise and isolate that mother

2 - steal more. folded to you in LP, the further back, and tighter the blinds, the lower your requirements to steal.

3 - open raise. connected to point #2. For just about all hands, except lower PP's and suited connectors, playing them should be a raise or fold decision, even while in EP
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:13 PM
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3 - open raise. connected to point #2. For just about all hands, except lower PP's and suited connectors, playing them should be a raise or fold decision, even while in EP

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Do you open-limp small PP's and suited connectors in middle to late position?
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:50 PM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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3 - open raise. connected to point #2. For just about all hands, except lower PP's and suited connectors, playing them should be a raise or fold decision, even while in EP

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Do you open-limp small PP's and suited connectors in middle to late position?

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unless I have spectacularly loose players to act behind me, I'd insta fold them both in MP. For LP, I'd try to steal with nearly all PP's, and maybe the bigger (98s, maybe 87s) suited connectors

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Old 08-15-2005, 10:10 PM
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Value raise big or connected suited hands after lots of limpers, and steal a lot more. However, at $.25/.50-$1/2, don't get carried away with this last part, especially if you're sitting to the right of some opponents with 40% VP$IPs.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:14 PM
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Value raise big or connected suited hands after lots of limpers

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This is probably my favorite play in all of hold em. My eyes light up when I have 87s on the button and everyone loses their mind and there's like 5 limpers to me with the blinds left to act. That's a raise all day every day. Not because I want to build the pot and tie myself to it, and not because of an equity edge, but because my opponents tend to view folding as an art, regardless of pot size, and I'll get their money in the pot while I can. Build that pot, baby.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Upping my preflop raise %

I disagree on 87 and I think you're contradicting yourself at least a few times in that post.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:44 PM
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I disagree on 87 and I think you're contradicting yourself at least a few times in that post.

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I say build that pot as in "get as much of their money in while they're willing to put it in", not "so that we can peel with a gutshot + BD flush omg I love calculating outs." I enjoy building a large pot with suited connectors. Big win when we connect, 1BB loss when we miss. Definitely my kind of trade off.
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