2 cold on the turn?

[goofball]

Party 15. no reads.


hero is in the small blind with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: MP1, MP2, CO, Button call, HERO completes, BB checks.

Flop comes: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Button raises, HERO calls, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Turn comes: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO checks, CO bets, Button raises, HERO...?

[Steve Giufre]

You are in a tough spot, how come you didnt play it faster on the flop?

[jgorham]

At that point in the hand I think it is really hard to say if you are ahead or not - not sure what I would do. I think you should have 3 bet the flop and led the turn, then you could safely afford to fold to a raise imo.

[JasonP530]

You have to fold now. The CO leading could lead to at least a 3 bet on the turn, and thats too much for you. You should have played faster on that draw heavy board, espcially given the likelihood that you have the best hand on the flop. You were going to win the minimum or lose the maximum like that.

Anyone else lead the flop and hammer away from there? People love to raise on flush draws and aces, and it will just give you a chance to get 3 in that way.

[Alexthegreat]

You should have 3-bet the flop.....That was the best possible way to protect your hand......You had to think you had the best hand there, right?

The 3-bet would have made this hand so much easier to play on the turn.......As it stands now, you should be folding.....

[Deorum]

Unlike everyone else who has responded so far, I do not
think your flop play was all that bad. Not three betting
the flop allows you to play the turn more cautiously when
a bad card hits. There is nothing wrong with calling the
flop to see the turn card and action before you start
jamming your two pair. I usually try to avoid three betting
the flop when there are a lot of cards that can come on the
turn to make me fold. As the action stands now, though, a
fold seems in order.

[Ionphore]

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Not three betting
the flop allows you to play the turn more cautiously when
a bad card hits

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This is the wrong way to think...

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There is nothing wrong with calling the
flop to see the turn card and action before you start
jamming your two pair.

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There is something seriously wrong with it. The button raises, and hero is in the small blind, its checked to the button, this is such an excellent oppurtunity to check raise the flop and thin the field. There is a very good chance he will knock out gutshots and possibly other hands. His two pair is vulnerable and this is a great spot to protect it on the flop.

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I usually try to avoid three betting
the flop when there are a lot of cards that can come on the
turn to make me fold.

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This is so weak-tight...

To the original poster you had a great oppurtunity to checkraise that flop, the check call is worse then check/folding in my opionon. You can't play some wait and see game before you start putting real money in the pot.

[King High]

Does anyone ever lead out here into this big field? Hoping to get raised so you can three bet. I think sometimes it may work better than the traditional Check/raise. Just a thought any comments why or why not this could work.

[garyc8]

If your opponents are the kind of players who can throw their hand away on the same betting round in which they've already put money in the pot, then your play may sometimes be a good one. Of course, if you don't expect anyne else in the hand to show agg. then leading out is also prob. best.

[nykenny]

reraise flop and lead turn.

since you didn't, u should choose between calling cold and 3 betting on turn.

Kenny