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Old 09-14-2005, 04:37 PM
SoBeDude SoBeDude is offline
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Default Two Sets, how\'d I do?

For the first time in what seems like months I actually managed to flop a few sets last night in the paradise 50K.

I don't think I played either of them all that well.

Note: This first hand is during the rebuy period.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed) converter

Button (t7215)
Hero (t9085)
BB (t6450)
UTG (t15570)
UTG+1 (t8015)
UTG+2 (t7958)
MP1 (t7460)
MP2 (t5405)
MP3 (t5090)
CO (t9210)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of t100.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to t1100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t900, MP2 folds.

Flop: (t2600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t3000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t7985</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t13585

My thinking here is that this is a draw heavy board so I want to punish a draw. And I'm oop so if I try a stop n go he might fold if he misses his draw, where he just might call the flop push with it, or he might call with a king. But in the end, I found myself with only a third of his chips and thinking a different play might have grabbed some more of them. Thoughts?

Next hand:
Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t10753)
Hero (t15637)
CO (t26142)
Button (t18304)
SB (t15016)
BB (t6510)
UTG (t12137)
UTG+1 (t18340)
MP1 (t5010)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t300.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t1500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, BB calls t600.

Turn: (t2700) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2000</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t4700

Well obviously I didn't extract much value here. I thought my pathetic minimum bet might look like I was just trying to see if he'd fold. When he called I thought he might call a bet of almost 1/2 the pot. Guess not. Anyone think a check here on the turn is the best play?

Comments appreciated.

-Scott
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

On the first hand, I'd probably push as well given it's a rebuy. You'd think the guy would call even with top pair and if he doesn't have top pair you probably won't get any more action anyway. Normally I'd just call his raise and check-call the turn, or perhaps check-raise the turn if a scary card came or I thought he was pot committed and would have to call anyway. But I definitely like leading out on the flop.

Hand 2, I think you bet too much on the turn. Half the pot would be around 1300 but it's probably splitting hairs.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

I didnt think the first board looked all that scary/draw heavy. JTs is the only real draw i could see there.. and even that's questionable..

and as for the 2nd one.. since you went with the minibet on the flop, i think the correct turn would be to cheeck, and keep your act of weakness up... though the 2000 bet after a bet of 600 does look 'fishy' and might get some calls.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

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though the 2000 bet after a bet of 600 does look 'fishy' and might get some calls.

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My recent experience is that a minimum flop bet followed by a "real" turn bet is a very strong hand that is trying to trap you.
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Old 09-14-2005, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

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though the 2000 bet after a bet of 600 does look 'fishy' and might get some calls.

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My recent experience is that a minimum flop bet followed by a "real" turn bet is a very strong hand that is trying to trap you.

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Yea I didn't like it as soon as I did it. I think either I bet another 600 on the turn, or check. My best was the worst option of the three.

-Scott
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Old 09-14-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

Hand 2, I think you bet too much on the turn. Half the pot would be around 1300 but it's probably splitting hairs.

There is 3150 in the pot when I bet 2K at it. What I meant to say was almost 2/3 of the pot. sorry about that.

-Scott
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Old 09-14-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

I echo what the other guys said.

Hand 1 is a good example of why coming over the top of minish raises is a good idea without a hand.

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Old 09-14-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

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Hand 2, I think you bet too much on the turn. Half the pot would be around 1300 but it's probably splitting hairs.

There is 3150 in the pot when I bet 2K at it. What I meant to say was almost 2/3 of the pot. sorry about that.

-Scott

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3150? Converter says 2700. Damn converter.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Two Sets, how\'d I do?

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Hand 2, I think you bet too much on the turn. Half the pot would be around 1300 but it's probably splitting hairs.

There is 3150 in the pot when I bet 2K at it. What I meant to say was almost 2/3 of the pot. sorry about that.

-Scott

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3150? Converter says 2700. Damn converter.

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Yea the converter issues are really starting to annoy me. Almost no hands work correctly for me anymore without some massaging. In this case, it ignored the Antes.

-Scott
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