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Old 08-02-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default risky push for QQ ?

wondering what people's thoughts on this hand are?
Won it but thought about t after and maybe the push was a bit risky?
POKERSTARS GAME #2246851013: TOURNAMENT #10820111, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL II (15/30) - 2005/08/02 - 16:25:30 (ET)
Table '10820111 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mr?Eus1 (1320 in chips)
Seat 2: erin7747 (1230 in chips)
Seat 3: gejjzor (1760 in chips)
Seat 4: DrGonzo_101 (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: derDofidiot (2490 in chips)
Seat 6: sup3rman0507 (1350 in chips)
Seat 7: D19Stark (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: X-Treme1305 (2460 in chips)
erin7747: posts small blind 15
gejjzor: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrGonzo_101 [Qh Qd]
DrGonzo_101: raises 60 to 90
derDofidiot: folds
sup3rman0507: calls 90
D19Stark: folds
X-Treme1305: calls 90
mr?Eus1: raises 270 to 360
erin7747: folds
gejjzor: folds
DrGonzo_101: raises 1060 to 1420 and is all-in
sup3rman0507: folds
X-Treme1305: folds
mr?Eus1: calls 960 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2h Td 8s]
*** TURN *** [2h Td 8s] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [2h Td 8s 4s] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DrGonzo_101: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
mr?Eus1: shows [Jc Ac] (high card Ace)
DrGonzo_101 collected 2865 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2865 | Rake 0
Board [2h Td 8s 4s Kc]
Seat 1: mr?Eus1 (button) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: erin7747 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: gejjzor (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DrGonzo_101 showed [Qh Qd] and won (2865) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: derDofidiot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sup3rman0507 folded before Flop
Seat 7: D19Stark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: X-Treme1305 folded before Flop
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:39 PM
pokerlaw pokerlaw is offline
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

Firstoff, I usually raise to t120 PF, especially if other raises have been that big. I think the push is fine, but AA-QQ are the only hands I would do that with.

what buy-in is this?
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:17 PM
TheSalche TheSalche is offline
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

looks fine, if you flat call you risk getting multiple callers which will make most flops look scary, if you min raise and and ace or king comes, you're potstuck and most likely screwed, so i think push is the best option here ... id usually say a PF re-raise means, AA, KK or sometimes AK, but with the small original raise, the reraise doesnt may not indicate as extreme strength
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

Was a $5 buy in
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Old 08-03-2005, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

Easy, easy push, especially when people show you things like that lovely AJ, and worse.
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Old 08-03-2005, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

Its a risky push, but your options IMO don't include calling ~25% of your stack w/ pocket queens and then hoping for a safe flop. Pushing is much better than mucking here. Looks good.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

Here's my thinking (feedback appreciated)...

What hands am I likely to be facing?
My expectation would be anything from AA down to ATo.

The possible combinations then are:
AA 6
KK 6
AK 16
AQ 8 (since you have 2)
AJ 16
AT 16

You are a big favorite against AQ, AJ or AT representing ~59% of the possibles.

You are about a coin flip against KK ~23%

You are a big dog against AA or KK, ~18%

Depending on the limit, that it's early in the tournament, and that your initial raise was small, there's still a non-zero chance that he's playing hands like KJs or KTs.

If you simply call, you're probably going to be pushed out of the hand if EITHER an A or K comes.

All in all, I would say you have to play your great cards aggressively, especially when you are a favorite against your probable opposition, making a call or fold a mistake.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:10 AM
Uppercut Uppercut is offline
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Default Re: risky push for QQ ?

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Was a $5 buy in

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Then you push approximately 100% of the time. You will be pleasantly surprised to get called by crap such as AJo.
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