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Old 11-13-2005, 02:04 PM
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Lately when I go to the B&M I have been either been hit hard by the deck or it avoids me like the plague. (I would be happy with break even) I don't think my play changes, I just can't hit a flop some days to save my life. It doesn't matter what you have, it gets run down. (no bad beat stories, you know what I mean)

My question is, what do you do on days like this and when?

When is the important part of this question. Obviously you change seats then change tables and then change again. But when?

Say you are playing 4/8 and you are a winning player. You start with $200 and get sucked out on twice with big hands on the river. You are now down to $100. Do you change seats?

You play a few small pots and grind your way back to only $50 down. Then you get into some big pots and lose another $100, so you only have $50 left. 2.5 hrs have past by now. Do you change tables at this point? The action is great you just can't get a hand to hold up.

So you reload another $100 and go to a new table with $150. At this point you are playing rock tight but every time you raise preflop you miss the flop, or draws with 15 outs don't come and you are down to $50 again. Say 2 more hours have past at this point. Again, I want to say that you are only raising with "TOP TEN HANDS" and you are being run down by 23o. You are now frustrated and are down $250. Do you play more, change tables, go to the buffet for a long break, or call it a day?

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
Scott
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:08 PM
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Say you are playing 4/8 and you are a winning player.

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Is this hypothetical, or does it apply to you?
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:13 PM
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When is the important part of this question. Obviously you change seats then change tables and then change again. But when?


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I never do this unless I have a good reason to. The only reason I change seats is to get position on someone. The only reasons I change tables is if I notice another table is loose and/or my table is tight.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:19 PM
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A little of both. You have to start some where.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:21 PM
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So you sit in the same place a try to grind it out? How long and how much $$ do you spend to give the cards a chance to turn in your favor?
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:35 PM
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So you sit in the same place a try to grind it out? How long and how much $$ do you spend to give the cards a chance to turn in your favor?

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I play until I feel like going home, or the game isn't good anymore. Last week I couldn't catch cards for nothing, and the few times I did I mostly got rivered (left down a lot). But I felt the game was good. One thing I do is bring an MP3 player with me to not make me bored. Last night I was getting hit over the head with the deck and when I was behind, I was hitting rivers because of opponents passive play in 1/2 NL. Getting good cards comes in cycles. You will not always get good cards during a session, and even if you do, you may still lose with them.

I feel that if you believe in the luckiness of a seat at a particular time, then you may be better off playing craps. You will get a result a lot faster (obviously -EV in the long run). As soon as I left my seat last night, a player immediately wanted it since it was so "lucky." I saw a player switch seats two times, the third seat he was winning with (nevermind the first seat he had me drawing to two outs and never raised my bets, the river gave me one of my outs.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:42 PM
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You play a few small pots and grind your way back to only $50 down.

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Do you change tables at this point? The action is great you just can't get a hand to hold up.

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1. Stop measuring in terms of how much you are down or up. If the action is great and you are playing well, this is all that matters. Play more in good situations and play less in bad situations.

2. It is possible that you are playing under your bankroll.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:47 PM
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I live in Colorado, so the biggest game you can get at a casino is $5/$5. The only other game is 2/5.
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Old 11-13-2005, 03:29 PM
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Changing seats or tables because the cards are running bad is just plain silly. It isn't going to hurt, but it isn't going to help either. Or to be more precise, random streaks can't be predicted or attributed to external causes. Your probability of getting good cards the next hand is the same whether you change seats or stay put. Also, if you ask for a deck change because your cards are running bad, you deserve a kick in the nuts.
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:43 PM
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OK,so changing seats or tables is just not going to help.

What about taking a break or packing it in for the day? Have you ever said to yourself "todays not my day" and just went home?

If you stay do you change your play at all? Play rock tight? Don't bet or play "AS" aggressively? Or do you just play as always and hope you don't blow your bank roll?

These questions may be elementary, but I am just feeling down on myself and need to know it will turn around. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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