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Old 06-10-2005, 02:34 PM
pokerman5000 pokerman5000 is offline
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Default Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

From the posts I have been reading, it seems to me you can make a lot more at party poker. I started out at UB, and have been playing party just for the bonus.

has anyone played UB and PP? If so, have you seen any change in your winrates?
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:19 PM
wbrumfiel wbrumfiel is offline
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

Party has lots more fish would SHOULD give you more money. UB has a lot more rocks. I would say there arent many who would say that Party isnt the more profitable site.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

I've played a fair amount of this level at both sites (though not much on Party's .25-.50 in the past couple months) and I'd say Party is definitely softer. UB has a lot of fish who bet min with mediocre hands/draws and bet pot with strong hands (because there's simple buttons that they can use without bothering with the slider bar or typing in an amount) that are extremely easy to play against but Party has more of the pushing/calling with middle pair type idiots.

One benefit of UB is a smaller player base (even at this level) so, when you've got a good read on a guy, you might actually run into him again and use that experience.
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

Just keep in mind that you should expect significantly greater variance at PartyPoker than at UltimateBet. While the site is a lot fishier, this means that you will suffer some awful beats as well - caused by players inappropriately making calls and getting lucky. However, them paying you off inappropriately also yields greater rewards in the long run.

Best of luck!

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Old 06-11-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

My current DB (since beginning March) ($50 and $100 NL)

shows Party averaging 12.37PTBB/100 and UB 11.53PTBB/100


Not much difference (and in fact my last DB would show a slightly better win rate at UB - I started the new one when Party doubled the stacks)

Of course the Party skin bonuses mean that the hourly rate is significantly better at Party.
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Old 06-11-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

Excession,

Would you be interested in posting a graph of your results? I'm very interested in what the graph of an optimally winning player looks like, for something to measure against. (i.e. how much short term variance, bad runs, general winning slope). My normal slope at $100NL is 12PTBB/100 but I have periods of bad beats and bad play that cut that rate down significantly.

Thanks in advance and if you don't have a grapher/time etc that's cool too.
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Old 06-11-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

is this for ring games? or 6max?
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Old 06-11-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

Wow those ptbb/100 are really impressive, are those 6 max or full ring?
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Ultimate Bet vs Party poker 50NL winrates

i'm sure it's just variance for me, but UB 50nl i'm way up while PP 50nl i'm way down...like someone said earlier, the more fish the more fluctuations.
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