$22 - L2 - 99 overpair to flop, unraised pot.

Raiser · #1 12-15-2005, 02:04 PM

No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t1840)
UTG+1 (t777)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t720)
CO (t405)
Button (t575)
SB (t480)
BB (t1488)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t30, 3 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t60, Hero ???

tigerite · #2 12-15-2005, 02:46 PM

Raise to t150 ish.

schwza · #3 12-15-2005, 02:54 PM

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Raise to t150 ish.

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i'd go to 175. you don't want to give odds.

tigerite · #4 12-15-2005, 02:55 PM

You don't, but you do want to keep the pot manageable for the turn. I don't think 25 makes that much difference to the donks at $22 anyway..

Raiser · #5 12-15-2005, 02:58 PM

OK, I actually raised to t200 on the flop. Now what's your move on the turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t1840)
UTG+1 (t777)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t720)
CO (t405)
Button (t575)
SB (t480)
BB (t1488)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t30, 3 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t60, Hero raises to t200, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t140.

Turn: (t550) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero???

schwza · #6 12-15-2005, 03:11 PM

i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

#7 12-15-2005, 03:15 PM

This is one reason you don't raise to 200. It's unnecessarilly bloated the pot. I check the turn, but not necessarilly give up. Villain will interpret that check as weakness and may bluff. I think you can call a manageable bet on the river, or hope to check down.

tigerite · #8 12-15-2005, 04:57 PM

You do have to raise this flop though. I agree t200 is just a bit too much.

#9 12-15-2005, 05:03 PM

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i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

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Really? A bet/called raise on the flop will have 99 beat more often than not?

Couldn't he easily have 77-88,QJ of clubs, or something crazy like Q5o to make seeing a showdown profitable?

schwza · #10 12-15-2005, 05:25 PM

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i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

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Really? A bet/called raise on the flop will have 99 beat more often than not?

Couldn't he easily have 77-88,QJ of clubs, or something crazy like Q5o to make seeing a showdown profitable?

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i'm not going to muck my hand. i just mean that i'm going to check behind and call only a small bet on the end.