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Old 12-08-2005, 04:54 AM
prana prana is offline
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Default Re: Hit a set on turn, but puts 3 flush on board

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I lead out 1/2 pot to get information out of this card. Without a flush or a straight, I think villian disappears here. Villian could easily have stuck around w/ a 6 or possibly 2 pair. Fold to reraise, and if villian cold calls, you may boat up anyways.

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really? This really makes me wonder what is the dichotomy between looser MTT play and STT play because I have been somewhat successful at both but put much more faith in my MTT skills. In a MTT unless it is a very deep stacked tournament there is no way I am dropping a set to a raise here. If this is different in a shorter stacked tournament where I am getting a set fewer times before blinds hit I am misunderstanding short stack play maybe, IMO I am playing this strong regardless. You would really fold to a reraise here???
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:58 AM
rbear rbear is offline
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Default Re: Hit a set on turn, but puts 3 flush on board

Fold very well could be ill advised. I'm definitely still learning here, and just saying what I'd do. I think I fold to a push(villian is most likely sticking around with something), which looks more like a flush draw than anything else. If villian does something dumb like min raise me back, I stay in and hopefully see a cheap showdown.
I think a straight would reraise this flop because of the flush draw, and I don't feel that top pair sticks around and reraises a bet on the turn. If villian plays back, I really only put them on flush/two pair. WA/WB. Meh.


EDIT: Early in a MTT I would probably call a push, being that I want to get a huge edge over opponents early.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:02 AM
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Folding to a reraise is pretty horrible. I like checking the turn behind. This way you're winning more if he bluffs the river, calling all reasonable river leads, betting for value on river checks, and owning his slowplayed flush if you hit one of your 10 outs.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:37 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default Re: Hit a set on turn, but puts 3 flush on board

I'm thinking the same way you are. I think betting may actually be a bit higher EV, but not by enough to make it worth the risk. Assuming you play much better pushbot than the opponents, it seems to me the extra EV gained isn't worth the risk.
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