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Old 11-14-2005, 09:55 PM
MichaelOar MichaelOar is offline
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Default 15/30 Hand @ Party

"Reasonable" UTG limps. All fold to me in the SB. I raise with QQ. Loose/weak player in the BB calls as does UTG.

Flop is Jh6x6x. I bet, both call.

Turn is Th. I bet. BB raises. UTG cold calls. I . . .

Michael
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:29 PM
Soh Soh is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

With Th and Jh on the board, there's a lot of draws out there, so some kind of draw is what the UTG probably has.

I'm sure you could be beat by BB with 6X, but I don't think you can fold here. Since it's only one bet to you, you should at least call, especailly because raise probably won't knock anyone out.

Soh

ps ...so what happned?
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:11 PM
MichaelOar MichaelOar is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

I call the turn and check the river after a blank hits.
BB bets the river. UTG folds and I make a crying call. BB shows J9o and MHIG!

Michael
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

raise again on turn.
not even close to me.
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

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raise again on turn.
not even close to me.

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You mean 3bet the turn? Flawless, whats your WTSD% in full games? A lot of your responses are very aggressive, when compared to others, and i'm curious as to how your aggression affects your WTSD%. If you don't mind sharing, would you share?

lf
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:27 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

I think it's reasonable to 3-bet the turn here against a lot of opponents and only call against others. And you haven't provided enough info on the BB to determine which bucket this falls in.

- Jim
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

The presence of the almost certain drawing hand of UTG makes it an easier 3bet I think as you'll be getting 2:1 on your money. Getting capped really sucks though.

-SmileyEH
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

easy 3-bet on turn. villain could easily have J10 and think he has you beat.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:27 PM
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you.....RAISE. One of these guys probably has J10, and isn'r giving you credit for an OP, hehe, got to love it, and the coldcaller comes out of his shell here with a 6, and just calls on his draws.

RAISE



Tex
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:24 PM
MichaelOar MichaelOar is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 Hand @ Party

BB was something like 44/2 IIRC, that's why I felt like he was more likely to hold the 6. I think you guys are right though. I need to punish the UTG's drawing hand with a 3-bet.

Also, when I'm capped on the turn and a brick hits the river do I muck or call-toss my chips to the BB?

Michael
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