2-7 TD Hand

[MichaelOar]

I am in SB with 236. One guy limps. I call. BB raises. We both call.

I draw 2. BB draws 1. Limper draws 2.

I brick out. I check. BB bets, limper calls and I call also.

I draw 2. BB draws 1. Limper stands pat.

I catch perfect, and now have 23467. Is this a must bet or a good spot for a check-raise?

Michael

[timprov]

I would check-raise.

[Luv2DriveTT]

fold the hand when you brick the first time. Other than that, I like the raise [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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[Brian Yarger]

I would tend to check-raise as well, but it depends on the players. I think there is a decent portion of time that the BB will check if he bricks again, since the player stood pat behind him. If the limper is a very passive player, then I might bet it out to ensure that you get at least one bet from each of them on this round.

[timprov]

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fold the hand when you brick the first time.

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Getting 8-1 and closing the action, this would be a mistake.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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fold the hand when you brick the first time.

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Getting 8-1 and closing the action, this would be a mistake.

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I disagree. The 6 defines the fold, the hero will be first to act on the next round putting him in an uncomfortable position if he improves one card. Yes its possible to catch a hand, but the 6 makes it more likely that the Hero will catch a hand such as 87623 - which may hold up, but is still not a good holding.

The pot is just not big enough to take the risk IMHO.

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[timprov]

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fold the hand when you brick the first time.

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Getting 8-1 and closing the action, this would be a mistake.

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I disagree. The 6 defines the fold, the hero will be first to act on the next round putting him in an uncomfortable position if he improves one card. Yes its possible to catch a hand, but the 6 makes it more likely that the Hero will catch a hand such as 87623 - which may hold up, but is still not a good holding.

The pot is just not big enough to take the risk IMHO.

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It would be profitable to continue for one bet on the next round (and two aren't likely) if you caught only a 7. You're going to do that more than 1 time in 9. 876 is somewhat more difficult, but you always have the option of dumping the 8.

[timprov]

The more I think about this, the more I think a check-raise might cause both opponents to fold, which would be a disaster. I would still do it if I knew BB would coldcall two if he's still drawing, or if limper goes to showdown too tenaciously, but if not, I'm not sure. I think check-call, stand pat, and bet might be better. That way you're almost sure to get another bet out of the limper's bad pat hand, a bet from BB to draw, and maybe another one from him on the end.

[MarkGritter]

I would try for a check/raise here, unless you have seen limper check through pat hands. (I've seen people do with with pat 9s made early. It's stupid. To compound their stupidity they usually bet the last round if checked to.)

[MichaelOar]

1. Although 246 isn't a premium draw, I still think it is a pretty easy call for the precise reasons already mentioned.

2. I am also convinced that a check-raise MUST be correct here. If the limper is rational, he almost HAS to bet here after standing pat, otherwise he may as well "call-in-the-dark" before the third draw.

I had not thought about the idea that the check-raise would kill my action. Although I was playing a medium limit game, I still don't think that either of my opponents were going to lay down anything, even if it was just a rough 8 draw.

3. In the actual hand, the action after the hand was checked around. I stood pat, BB took 1, and the limper now TOOK TWO (thus, it must have been a misclick on the previous draw).

Michael