I think this is right but scuba disagrees

[elcheapo]

I had 16 and 2 other stacks had around 10. If I had 2k or they had less then I would fold. i thought the percentages were on my side and I was maybe marginally wrong.

[curtains]

DELETED - MISREAD THE HH. I suggested calling if the BB was the other shortstack, which I still beleive is clearly correct.

[Pasterbator]

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Its a pretty easy call IMO against most decent players. To be honest I would never dream of folding in this spot in a $215. People who can't make ugly looking calls like this are going to have problems winning at sit and gos.

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ugh. i need to get better at SNGs.

[curtains]

[ QUOTE ]
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Its a pretty easy call IMO against most decent players. To be honest I would never dream of folding in this spot in a $215. People who can't make ugly looking calls like this are going to have problems winning at sit and gos.

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ugh. i need to get better at SNGs.

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Please read my follow up post. I misread the HH.

[Pasterbator]

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Please read my follow up post. I misread the HH.

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All over it. I'm a whole step ahead (or behind) you.

[jeffraider]

wtf is scuba doing berating bad players!?!!?

[elcheapo]

nice response (18% ROI after 3000 33's)

[Scuba Chuck]

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wtf is scuba doing berating bad players !?!!?

[/ QUOTE ]

Caught me.

#Game No : 3272946676
***** Hand History for Game 3272946676 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:46:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $1617 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4540 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $930 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $913 )
Trny:18664529 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Ts Td ]
hueys46 folds.
>You have options at Table 67385 Table!.
wnlake5 folds.
Scuba_Chuck is all-In [813]
>You have options at Table 67841 Table!.
elcheapo23 calls [713].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Jd, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
Scuba_Chuck shows [ Ts, Td ] a full house, Tens full of jacks.
elcheapo23 shows [ Kh, 3d ] a pair of jacks.
Scuba_Chuck wins 1826 chips from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of jacks.
Game #3272948674 starts.

#Game No : 3272948674
***** Hand History for Game 3272948674 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:46:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $704 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4540 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $930 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $1826 )
Trny:18664529 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ 9s 7d ]
>You have options at Table 67841 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67385 Table!.
wnlake5 folds.
Scuba_Chuck folds.
elcheapo23 folds.
hueys46 shows [ 5h, 8c ] high card eight.
hueys46 wins 450 chips from the main pot with high card eight.
nice call
Game #3272949770 starts.

#Game No : 3272949770
***** Hand History for Game 3272949770 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:46:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $554 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4690 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $930 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $1826 )
Trny:18664529 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Jh 3h ]
elcheapo23: good timing
Scuba_Chuck folds.
BLACKJACK MASTERS!
*** TOP 21 PLAYERS! ***
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>You have options at Table 67385 Table!.
elcheapo23 folds.
>You have options at Table 67841 Table!.
hueys46 folds.
wnlake5 does not show cards.
wnlake5 wins 450 chips
Game #3272951852 starts.

#Game No : 3272951852
***** Hand History for Game 3272951852 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:47:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $554 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4540 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $1080 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $1826 )
Trny:18664529 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ 5c As ]
elcheapo23: your on 2+2 and you know that call is right
>You have options at Table 67385 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67841 Table!.
elcheapo23 folds.
>You have options at Table 67841 Table!.
hueys46 folds.
>You have options at Table 67385 Table!.
wnlake5 raises [450].
Scuba_Chuck folds.
wnlake5 does not show cards.
wnlake5 wins 900 chips
Game #3272953331 starts.

#Game No : 3272953331
***** Hand History for Game 3272953331 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18664529 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, December 28, 00:47:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 68111 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: elcheapo23 ( $554 )
Seat 3: hueys46 ( $4540 )
Seat 5: wnlake5 ( $1380 )
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck ( $1526 )
Trny:18664529 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Js Kc ]
Scuba_Chuck: right and then wrong
hueys46 raises [600].
wnlake5 folds.
Scuba_Chuck folds.
elcheapo23 is all-In [254]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 2d, Jh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
hueys46 shows [ 5d, 5s ] a pair of fives.
elcheapo23 shows [ 7s, 5c ] high card queen.
hueys46 wins 46 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of fives.
hueys46 wins 1258 chips from the main pot with a pair of fives.
elcheapo23 finished in fourth place.
elcheapo23 has left the table.
Game #3272954906 starts.

[ilya]

[ QUOTE ]
Its a pretty easy call IMO against most decent players. To be honest I would never dream of folding in this spot in a $215. People who can't make ugly looking calls like this are going to have problems winning at sit and gos.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well the equilibrium here is something like 61%/31%, so I guess by a "decent" player you mean someone who will push more than is game-theory optimal because he expects BB to fold too much?

[curtains]

Ok time to delete my ORIGINAL POST