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Old 08-17-2005, 02:15 AM
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Default Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

I felt that the turn bet on the two was a little strange...thought he was trying to take the pot away from me, unless he had checked a big ace on the flop (or big pair, fearing an ace).

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

Turn: (2.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:17 AM
macdaddy991 macdaddy991 is offline
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Check fold the turn. Even if you are ahead, there are at least 6 cards that will help him. If you are behind, you are only going to lose more bets. The pot is small.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Without a good read on villain, I check/fold every street.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Fold it everytime.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

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Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?

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Because he's playing 99-KK like a little girl.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

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Why else would he check the flop and call a turn raise on a blank unless he totally missed the flop?

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TT, JJ, QQ, KK and slowplayed 99 and AA all come to mind.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Or he's playing KTs like a loose calling station...
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

Haven't read the other responses yet...

This is the same type of hand that I have trouble with. I think you should fold to the turn bet, if only because the pot is so small and you're losing to pretty much any real hand. Even a realistic hand you're beating (hard to think of one... maybe Jh Th?) has a ton of outs to beat you. I hope I would just fold when the pot is so small.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Low Pockets out of position vs. pre-flop raiser...

this play is totally read dependent. a lot of normally aggressive opponents will get cute and check this flop with AA-AT. I don't like the turn c/r here unless you think he's capable of folding a better pp. same with the river bet.
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