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Old 12-02-2005, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

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Note I meant that SB is the calling station, but its not that important. MP2 is the aggressor.

leader .... would you have planned to call a river bet with just KK, no matter what?

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I think you have to call a river bet even if the king does not hit for the same reason he called the turn bet. In addition it would help give a read on how villian is playing.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

Why the hell would this make you feel bad? If you were behind at any point and time in this hand its because someone sucked out on you and i promise it didn't make them feel bad. You should change the title of this post to "This made me feel GREAT. Would you have called the turn?"
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

Yes, you cant fold to an overcard (even an ace) unless you are more than 90% sure here that villian has it. He bet into you on the flop so you can't assume he isnt overplaying a paired queen on the flop. Maybe he is aggressive enough to try to see if you are on an ace.

Possible hand ranges due to the preflop raise and flop action in my mind include

AK, AQ, KQ, QJ and clubs. The fact that he checked the river indicates that he was beaten by an A or K or missed his clubs draw.

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Old 12-02-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

I don't think we can be 75% sure he has AQ. I'm not even 20% sure he has AQ. I think it's pretty likely he has an ace, but getting like 13ish:2 on a showdown I'd probably show it down unless there was any unexpected aggression from the SB. Was MP1 the calling station, or was it SB?
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

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Why the hell would this make you feel bad? If you were behind at any point and time in this hand its because someone sucked out on you and i promise it didn't make them feel bad. You should change the title of this post to "This made me feel GREAT. Would you have called the turn?"

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i think the point where the op didnt feel 'great', was when the 15.5 pot got shipped to MP2 with AQo =P
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

you are rooting for him to have aq on this turn... it puts you in the same shape that you would be in if he had a2, but boosts are implied odds.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

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Why the hell would this make you feel bad? If you were behind at any point and time in this hand its because someone sucked out on you and i promise it didn't make them feel bad. You should change the title of this post to "This made me feel GREAT. Would you have called the turn?"

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i think the point where the op didnt feel 'great', was when the 15.5 pot got shipped to MP2 with AQo =P

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Um if the villian had AQ the pot went our hero's direction.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

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Note I meant that SB is the calling station, but its not that important. MP2 is the aggressor.

leader .... would you have planned to call a river bet with just KK, no matter what?

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I think you have to consider folding a Q or a club. Besides that, yes.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: This made me feel BAD. Would you have called the turn?

Unless MP2 is a muppet, you can fold the turn.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:09 AM
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Well MP2 did indeed have AQ.
SB (the calling station type) had AJ

And so I won, with 3 Kings

I felt BAD, only because I don't think I should have called the turn, I don't think I win often enough to make that call worthwhile. I even apologized!
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